A Model 1840 and 1860 Cavalry Saber—with Four CW Revolvers.

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This Model 1840 cavalry saber was manufactured by Ames in 1845---the first year that this model was actually delivered ---one of 600.

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From Thillmann's book.
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Inspectors' markings.
NWP –Nahum W. Patch 1831-51
WAT-William Anderson Thornton, Captain USA 1840-66
JCB-Joseph C. Bragg 1841-49

This 'P' marking on the scabbard is unknown----John Thillmann who wrote the books did not know.
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Inspectors' markings on the pommel include WAT for William Anderson Thornton.

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'58 Remington New Model Army and '60 Colt Army revolvers with a Gaylord marked holster.

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E.Gaylord marked holster that was used with the '58 Remington and '60 Colt Army revolver.
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OWA cartouche on the Remington --for Orville W. Ainsworth.

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Model '58 Remington and '60 Colt Army revolvers.

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'51 Colt Navy-Army revolver with martial markings.

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Sub-Inspectors' cartouche MM for M.Moulton.

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William A. Thornton.

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Arms inspected by William A. Thornton---including Ames swords.

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WAT William Anderson Thornton Capt., USA Nippes M1840 Musket, Ames, Aston R. Johnson & Waters Pistols and Massachusetts Arms Adams, Remington Beal’s, Savage, Colt, Paterson, Walker and Dragoon Revolvers, Joslyn Carbines, Colt Revolving Rifles 1840-1861.

William A. Thornton was born in Albany, N.Y. in 1802. He graduated from the U.S.MilitaryAcademy at West Point, N.Y. in 1825. He served in the Black Hawk Expedition of 1832 and in Charleston Harbor, S.C. with General Winfield Scott from 1832-33. In 1855 Jefferson Davis, Secretary of War, sent Major Thornton to New Mexico where he served as Chief of Ordnance of the Dept. of New Mexico until 1857. Returning across the plains, he contracted a lung condition from which he never fully recovered. As Bvt. Brig. General he took command of New York Arsenal at Governor's Island, N.Y. where he died April 6, 1866.

William Anderson Thornton (b. 1802, Albany, NY) graduated twelfth in his class at West Point on July 1, 1835; he was commissioned a Brevet 2nd LT, 1st Artillery; entered the U.S. Army Engineer Corps.; served in the Seminole Indian War in Florida; transferred to ordnance department; and was stationed at Governors' Island; Watertown Arsenal, MA, and Watervliet Arsenal, NY. He achieved the rank of brigadier general Gen. W.A. Thornton died at his post on Governors' Island, NY on April 6, 1866.

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'This link is to an interesting article about The Ames Manufacturing Company during the Civil War.
http://newenglandtravels.blogspot.com/2009/03/ames-manufacturing-company-civil-war.html

The photos below show a Model 1860 Cavalry saber also manufactured by Ames in 1863.
This saber shows the Armory Sub-Inspectors' stamp ADK for Andrew D.King -1850-1865.
The first photo shows the difference between the Model 1840 (top) and Model 1860 sabers.

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A Naval bayonet manufactured by Ames.

The first Knife Bladed bayonet is considered to be the Model 1861 for the Plymouth / Whitneyville rifle.

The Dahlgren knife bayonet... (named after Captain John A. Dahlgren, U.S. Navy)... one of two bayonets associated with the Whitney Model 1861 Percussion Navy ("Plymouth") .69 caliber Rifle.
The Whitney "Plymouth" rifle, named after the U.S.S. PLYMOUTH, a naval ordnance testing ship which had been built under Dahlgren's supervision, has the distinction of being the only U.S. contract arm to be originally rifled in .69 caliber.

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U. S. N. D.R. (Navy inspector Daniel Reynolds)

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Another CW revolver.
Model 1858 Starr D/A Army revolver.

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Serial number on the frame and hammer--19820

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Serial number on the cylinder --9820.
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Grip cartouches.
The script letters ‘BH’ appears on both the left and right side of the grip.
US Armory sub-inspector Benjamin Hannis.
The letter ‘H’ appears on the cylinder.

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Benjamin Hannis- Allen & Wheelock, Colt M1860, Remington Elliott, Savage Figure 8 and Starr Revolvers 1861.

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This Model 1863 Starr S/A Army revolver 'does not belong to me'---unfortunately.
An improvement over the Model 1858 D/A Starr Army revolver.

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The following is a list of Union Regiments having been partially armed during their field service with the Starr revolver.

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Thanks e.r fox.

Foot Officers’ Sword, Model 1850.

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The left ricasso marking is;
HORSTMANN
& SONS
PHILADELPHIA

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W.H. Horstmann&Sons, NY and Philadelphia
William H. Horstmann was a German immigrant arriving in Philadelphia in 1816. He established a military goods business in the mid 1820s, and with his two sons William J. and Sigmund H. the Horstmann conducted business in Philadelphia and New York under a number of corporate names.Horstmann was more of a reseller (importer) (assembler) rather than a manufacturer. Many versions of the Horstmann mark have been seen, most on a variety of officer’s sabers. They carried a range of sword varieties rivalled only by the Ames company. Most standard issue models were sold, as well as a huge variety of related military equipment. Most, if not all, blades were imported from Germany, and some still carry marks from their German makers. Horstmann held government contracts for 1043 cavalry sabers, 1143 NCO swords, 270 musician swords, and 87 light artillery sabers, and is the only known maker of the M1840 Marine sword.

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Two Model 1840 Musicians swords.
Ames dated 1864 (bottom)
C. Roby dated 1863 (top)

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Markings on the Ames.

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Markings on the Roby.

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The non-musical duties of bandsmen were primarily medical. Before battles, bandsmen
gathered wood for splints and helped set up field hospitals. During and after the fighting, they carried the wounded to hospitals, helped surgeons perform amputations, and discarded limbs.

Each regiment had a band which consisted of drummers and fife players. They inspired the men on the march and entertained in camp. There were also specific cadences, or drum beats, which directed troops to march in a specific order. In a few cases, regiment bands were quite large and lavish when well-to-do officers endowed them with financial support. The government tried to stifle such excess but the soldiers still found ways around the regulations. Christmas and cultural holidays were often met with parties, balls and formal dinners. If the camp location was secure, the soldier’s wives and families could attend. The bands were then employed to entertain while many of the soldiers often sang in groups.

Army regulations of 1863 allowed the superintendent of recruiting depots to enlist, as field musicians, boys of twelve years of age and upward who had a natural talent for music. After enlisting, field musicians of the Regular Army could be sent to the School of Practice on Governor's Island, New York. They were billeted opposite from Brooklyn, at the Old South Battery.

In addition to the bands of the Regular Army and the volunteer militias, there were field musicians. Field musicians, comprising of drummers and buglers, sounded camp calls and battlefield signals. They were not part of the band, and few could read music. Field musicians learned by rote the calls sounded at specific times in camp or upon command in battle.

Army bandsmen's pay was substantially higher during the Civil War than previous years. The chief musician received $45.00 per month, one-fourth of the bandsmen received $35.00, another fourth received $20.00, and the remaining half received $17.00. The drum major also received $17.00. Fifers, drummers, and buglers were paid $12.00 per month. Musicians were by no means overpaid when their high casualty rate is taken into account. A reference to the record of the 125th Ohio Regimental Band (known as the Tiger Band) shows that only 10 of the original 36 members of this organization could still be accounted for at the end of the war in 1865.

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Musicians battlefield ambulance duties.
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My B-Flat CW Fife marked U.S. 1862.

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David
 
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