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Trivia Question 3-6-17 Who Am I?

Discussion in 'War Between the States Trivia Game' started by Trivia Master, Mar 6, 2017.

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  1. 57th Indiana Infantry

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    Henry Bohlen
    75th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry

    (Bohlen came back to fight after Fort Sumter)



    John Basil Turchin
    19th Illinois Volunteer Infantry Regiment
    (Turchin came in 1856)
     
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    lelliott19 2nd Lieutenant Forum Host Trivia Game Winner

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    There were many officers in the Confederate and US Armies who had served in the Crimean War. The question says arrived in the US (not returned to the US) so I assume this means he was not born here. That rules out quite a few. Of those who served in the Crimean War, who also served the Union and who were not born in the US and who commanded a regiment here are a few:

    John Basil Turchin (Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov / Ivan Vasilovitch Turchininoff) who was born in Russia and immigrated to the US in 1856 as a railroad employee. In June 1861, he was appointed Col. commanding the 19th Illinois. Buell was impressed with his performance and promoted him to command a brigade of the 3rd Divn/Army of the Ohio. He was court-martialed for allowing his men to loot and pillage Athens AL on May 2, 1862, :nah disagree: but he was reprieved by Pres. Lincoln after his wife interceded. July 1862 appointed Brig. Gen. of Volunteers, commanded 3rd Brigade/4th Division/XIV Corps at Chickamauga. Commanded 1st Brigade/3rd Division/XIV Corps at Missionary Ridge, Atlanta campaign, resigned October 1864 because of ill health. Interestingly, his wife is reported to have led his regiment into battle once when he was ill in 1862. (!) http://civilwartalk.com/threads/list-of-union-generals.103247/page-2

    Alfred Napolean Duffie born in France, arrived in the US in 1859 after serving in the 6th Dragoon Reg of the French Imperial Cavalry in the Crimean War; married into a prominent NY family. First joined the 2nd NY Cavalry Aug 9, 1861 and soon made Captain. In July 1862, he was appointed to command of the 1st Rhode Island Cavalry with a rank of Colonel. en.wikipedia /wiki/Alfred_N._Duffi%C3%A9

    Enrico Fardella born in Sicily Italy. After participating in the Crimean War, he resigned from the Italian Army in April 1861 specifically to travel to the US to participate in the US Civil War. He was given permission to recruit a regiment, but was unable to enlist enough men and in Jan 1862, his men and those of another were assimilated into the 101st New York with Fardella as Colonel. Dec 1862, the men were transferred to the 37th NY and the officers were mustered out. Fardella next assumed command of the 51st New York, but resigned in protest of McClellan's leadership. In 1864, he assumed command of the 85th New York, which he commanded until he was captured at Plymouth April 19 1864 and imprisoned at Libby, Danville, and Charleston. He was made Bvt Brig Gen March 15, 1865 for distinguished service at Plymouth. https://books.google.com/books?id=f...B#v=onepage&q=general enrico fardella&f=false pp.234-247

    Im sure there were others. Since the Q was submitted by Pavel, I am guessing Turchin is the desired response? even though Turchin did not arrive in the US specifically "in order to participate." But Fardella came specifically "in order to participate" so I would think he would also be a correct response. :thumbsup:
     
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    You are John B. Turchin (birth name Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov) and you commanded
    the 19th Illinois Infantry Regiment as Colonel
     
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    Ivan Vasilovitch Turchininoff, whose name was Anglicized to John Basil Turchin in the U.S., commanded the 19th Illinois Infantry before being promoted to the rank of brigadier general in 1863.
     
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    There were several men who served in the Crimean War and commanded regiments in the ACW, though I think most arrived in the US before the war. Examples are the usual suspect Ivan Turchinoff (19th Illinois), Alfred N. Duffie (1st Rhode Island Cav.) and Luigi Palma de Cesnola (4th NY Cav.).
     
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    George Brinton McClellan




      • On September 17th of 1862 General McClellan again faced off against Confederate General Lee at the Battle of Antietam. This battle would end up being the bloodiest day in the history of the U.S. military. McClellan again had vastly superior numbers which he failed to use to his full advantage.



      • The Union eventually forced Lee to retreat from the town of Sharpsburg but at great cost of life.



      • McClellan deployed only segments of his army at different times during the battle against different defensive positions. This allowed General Lee to shift his soldiers where needed. Most historians agree if the Union had attacked the Confederate positions all at the same time, Lee would have been forced to spread his lines to thinly allowing for a quick and decisive Union victory.



      • McClellan also held many soldiers in reserve that could have been used to crush Lee's army.



      • Although the Union succeeded in ending Lee's invasion of Maryland McClellan was criticized for allowing what was left of the Confederate army to escape from the battlefield instead of pursuing them and perhaps ending the war.

    • Due to his poor performance at the Battle of Antietam, Lincoln removed General McClellan from command of the Union Army on November 5, 1862.
    Edit - McClellan served as an observer during the Crimean War, but he took a job with the railroad after his return to the US. As far as I can determine, he never commanded a unit as small as a regiment during the Civil War. The description above is of his activities as commander of the Army of the Potomac.

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    Hang on..scratch my 1st answer!!!
    I'm going to try this answer as a total shot in the dark.....
    Would you be??

    Ivan Turchaninov
    And the regiment would be the 19th Illinois Volunteer Infantry.

    Final answer
     
  11. ami

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    Answer. Turchininov Ivan Vasilevich(John Basil Turchin). He commanded the 19th Illinois Infantry Regiment.

    Edit - As our players' answers show, there were a number of people other than Turchininov who participated in the Crimean War and later came to the US and commanded a Union regiment. Henry Bohlen, John Fitzroy DeCoursey, Luigi Palma di Cesnola, Alfred Napoleon Duffie, and Enrico Fardella all fit the description.

    Admittedly, the question wasn't worded the way someone whose first language is English would have worded it. The official answer shows that the question was asking for the identity of a regimental commander and the regiment which he commanded.

    The vast majority of players recognized that this was a two-part question, though the use of the word "how" led to some confusion over what the second part of the question was asking for. I will accept answers that described how a certain individual came to assume command of a regiment and answers that described how the individual conducted himself after assuming command, as well as answers that identified the regiment he commanded.

    A few players interpreted this to be a one-part question, asking solely for the name of a person. I'm sorry, but I can't agree with that interpretation. Even though "how" wasn't the best possible choice of words, the question did use two different interrogatory words ("who" and "how") with the word "and" in between. I feel that should have been sufficient indication that this was a two-part question.

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