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Trivia Question 3-6-17 Who Am I?

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  1. Trivia Master

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    "I participated in the Crimean War. He arrived in the US in order to participate on the side of the north.
    Who I am and how I commanded a regiment?"

    credit: @Pavel
     
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    Colonel Luigi Palma di Cesnola, a former Italian and British soldier and veteran of the Crimean War, commanded the 4th New York Cavalry. He established a military school in New York City where many young Italians were trained and later served in the Union army.
     
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    Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov (aka John Basil Turchin.) Colonel of the 19th Illinois Vol. Inf. later Brigadier General, Third Division, Army of the Ohio
     
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    Colonel Luigi Palma di Cesnola, a former Italian and British soldier and veteran of the Crimean War, commanded the 4th New York Cavalry.

    Source: Italian Americans in the Civil War
     
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    You are Ivan Turchaninov (or his Anglicized name John Basil Turchin). He was a Colonel in the Russian Guards and fought in Hungary in the Crimean War - and then in 1861 - would be a colonel of the 19th Illinois Volunteer Infantry Regiment. He would leave the army with a Brigadier General rank. He and his wife are an interesting couple.
    http://civilwarwomenblog.com/madame-turchin/
     
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    Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov better known by his Anglicised name of John Basil Turchin, was a Union army brigadier general in the American Civil War. He led two critical charges that saved the day at Chickamauga and was among the first to lead soldiers up Missionary Ridge.
    As far as "how I commanded a regiment" He supposedly looked the other way at Athens Alabama, during which time his men ransacked the business district. When word reached General Buell, a man much detested by the soldiers, he insisted on court-martialing Turchin. There were three charges against Turchin.
    1- "neglect of duty."
    2- Turchin failed to perform proper behavior expected out of an officer and a gentleman.
    3- a failure to obey orders.
    However, President Abraham Lincoln promoted Turchin to brigadier general before the court-martial was finished. And that was the end of that. Turchin was given command of a new brigade. He distinguished himself during the battles of Chickamauga and Chattanooga, and in the Atlanta Campaign.
    Turchin was placed in command of the Nineteenth Illinois Infantry and eventually commanded the entire Eighth Brigade, which comprised the Nineteenth and Twenty-fourth Illinois Volunteer Infantry, Eighteenth Ohio Volunteer Infantry, and the Thirty-seventh Indiana Volunteer Infantry.
    source-wiki
    source-http://www.anb.org/articles/06/06-00904.html
     
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    Brigadier General Henry Bohlen. After the Crimean War, he for some time resided quietly in Holland, when news reached him of the firing on and surrender of Fort Sumter. Bohlen arrived in Philadelphia in June, 1861 and applied for a position on the staff of some general officer, but finding no vacancy, he made application to the War Department for permission to recruit a regiment, which was at once granted. He immediately set about organizing a regiment, to be composed entirely of Germans, and he succeeded in the effort.

    http://stonewall.hut.ru/leaders/bohlen.htm
     
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    He was Alfred Napoléon Alexander Duffié.

    Source. Wikipedia.

    Edit - See edit to post # 30.

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    I understand that "I" and "He" is the same person. If that is correct, my guess is:

    Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov who later anglicized his name to John Basil Turchin.
    He served as Colonel of Staff in the Imperial Russian Army (Russian Guard) and fought in the Crimean War. In 1856 he and his wife immigrated to the United States and lived near Chicago. Turchaninov/Turchin joined the Civil War on the Union side and commanded the 19th Illinois Volunteer Infantry Regiment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivan_Turchaninov&oldid=743375606
     
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    John Fitzroy DeCoursey...Colonel, 16th Ohio.
     
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    Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov (Russian: Ива́н Васи́льевич Турчани́нов; December 24, 1822 – June 18, 1901) [1] better known by his Anglicised name of John Basil Turchin, was a Union army brigadier general in the American Civil War. He led two critical charges that saved the day at Chickamauga and was among the first to lead soldiers up Missionary Ridge. { He commanded in the Muscorvite Custom were his men could pillage and plunder}

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    Ivan Vasilyevich Turchaninov ; December 24, 1822 – June 18, 1901) [1] better known by his Anglicised name of John Basil Turchin, was a Union army brigadier general in the American Civil War.
    Turchin joined the Union army at the outbreak of the war in 1861 and became the colonel of the 19th Illinois Volunteer Infantry Regiment. Having led his regiment in Missouri and Kentucky, he soon found his unit under command of the newly organized Army of the Ohio under major general Don Carlos Buell. General Buell was impressed by Turchin and promoted him to command a brigade in the Army of the Ohio's Third Division, commanded by Brigadier General Ormsby M. Mitchel. Buell advanced southward into Kentucky and Tennessee in early 1862.
    After reoccupying the town on May 2, 1862 Turchin assembled his men and reportedly told them: "I shut my eyes for two hours. I see nothing." He did in fact leave the town to reconnoiter defensive positions, during which time his men ransacked the business district. The incident was controversial,Buell's clearly stated conciliatory policy of protecting the rights and property of Southerners
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    Colonel Luigi Palma di Cesnola commanded the 4th New York Cavalry. He established a military school in New York City where many young Italians were trained and later served in the Union army.
     
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    By 1861 the American Civil War had already started in the U.S. At Fardella’s own expense he organized a brigade of volunteers, which after forming became known as the 101 New York regiment. He was commissioned a Colonel in the unit and thus began his involvement on the Union side in the American Civil War. It should be further noted that at about the same time that Fardella and Cesnola worked together and helped establish the New York 39th Infantry Regiment. This unit was commissioned in May 1861. The unit came to be known as the Garibaldi Guard.

    As part of their efforts in forming the New York 39th Cesnola and Fardella helped in the recruitment of recently arrived immigrants, including Italians, many of whom had Carbonari links, for service in the American Civil War.

    The Garibaldi regiment or as it was officially called the N.Y. 39th saw substantial action during the war including a dramatic stand at Gettysburg. It was unique as one of the most internationally diverse units in the Union army. When it was originally created the regiment consisted of eleven companies, three German, three Hungarian, one Swiss, one Italian, one French, one Spanish and one Portuguese. The officer corp. of the regiment also was unique in reflecting the diversity of its units. A number of the young officers had studied under Cesnola at his military academy.

    Source: http://www.sanfelesesocietynj.org/H...mption Articles/American_Civil_War_Effect.htm
     
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    John Fitzroy DeCoursey

    Edit - See edit to post # 30.

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    Edit - Answer revised in subsequent post.

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    Ivan Turchaninov, 19th Illinois Regiment.
     
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    There were a lot of them, but considering it's @Pavel 's question (thank you, Pavel!), I concentrated on Russians. This source https://sputniknews.com/news/201306...ho-Fought-in-US-Civil-War-Gettysburg-Turchin/ names several. I'm hoping that it's this guy:
    "But the best known of all the Russian-born soldiers who fought in the US Civil War was John Basil Turchin, the son of a major in the tsar’s army, and himself a veteran of the Crimean War, who immigrated to the United States in 1856.
    "Born Ivan Vasilevich Turchaninoff, Turchin changed his name because Americans had such difficulty pronouncing the multi-syllabic Russian name. He quickly assimilated into life in Chicago, where he settled with his wife, Nadine.
    "Three months after Confederate troops fired the first shots of the Civil War at Fort Sumter in South Carolina on April 12, 1861 he was commissioned as a colonel in the Union Army."
    "In September 1861, when the 19th Illinois regiment that Turchin led suffered a terrible accident – a bridge collapse that killed 25 men and injured 105 others – Nadine, who followed her husband into battle just as she had followed him to America, “tore her skirt into bandages and ministered to the wounded,” wrote Parry in The Russian Review.
    "Turchin was always referred to as a Russian general in the American Civil War. Even when he won praise from the media and military officials for a booklet of military drills that he published, his Russian roots were highlighted. The booklet won praise for its “Russian methods combined with American patriotism,” and it so impressed the top brass in the Union army that they put a fourth regiment under Turchin’s command. "

    Per the wikipedia article, "Ivan Turchininov," and http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/h-1652, General Buell was impressed by Turchin and promoted him to command the Eighth Brigade in the Army of the Ohio's Third Division. The Third Division was involved with the Great Locomotive Chase (Andrews' Raid). Turchin ran into trouble when his troops got out of hand at Athens, AL (the "Sack of Athens"} in 1862 and was court-martialed, but his soldiers and a number of prominent civilians (including journalists) appealed to Lincoln, who made Turchin a brigadier general (thus invalidating the court martial because Turchin now outranked most of the officers on the court). Per the Encyclopedia of Alabama, Turchin had some influence in changing Union policy towards hostile civilians. He distinguished himself at Chickamauga, Chattanooga, and during the Atlanta Campaign. He resigned in Oct. 1864 after suffering heatstroke.

    [It sure would help if autocorrect wouldn't change his name every time I type it!]

    The article linked to in the first sentence also mentions a Prince Alexander Eristoff, who came to the US in 1862 to fight for the Union, but I couldn't find any more information about him except the very brief mention in this article.
     

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