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Trivia Question 2-17-17 Who Said That & Bonus

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  1. Trivia Master

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    Who said this, and about whom?
    "He will regret it but once. . . ."

    credit: @MaryDee

    Bonus:
    After the Battle of Gettysburg the Medical Director of the Army of the Potomac, Jonathan Letterman, although still responsible for the wounded and the field hospitals, travelled with the army in pursuit of Lee.
    1/ Who did he leave in charge of the wounded at Gettysburg?.
    On July 18th Letterman's role with Gettysburg was officially terminated.
    2/ Who took over responsibility for the wounded and hospitals at Gettysburg?

    credit: @Brenal

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    Jeb stuart.

    Edit - The main question asked not only who said the words in question, but also about whom he said them.

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    JEB Stuart regarding his Father in-law Lt. Colonel Phillip St. George Cooke, on the latter choosing to remain with the Union.

    1. Dr. Henry Janes.

    2. The Townspeople of Gettysburg??
     
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    Jim Stuart said that about Phil St, George Cooke.

    Edit - No answer given for bonus question.

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    The full quote reads "He will regret it but once, and that will be continuously." It was said by JEB Stuart about his father in law, Philip St. George Cooke. Cooke remained in the US Army when Virginia seceded and Stuart was so disgusted about that that he even renamed his baby boy, who had been named for Cooke, and gave him the name James Ewell Brown Stuart, Jr.
     
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    JEB Stuart about his father in law, Philip St. George Cooke
    Bonus
    1) Dr. Henry Janes
    2) Thomas A. Mc Parlin
     
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    General J.E. Stuart said this about his father-in-law, Philip St. George Cooke, a cavalry officer in the United State when he remained loyal to the Union. Stuart wrote to his brother-in-law (John Rogers married Flora’s sister Maria and went with the South) - “He will regret it but once, and that will be continuously.” They would never speak again.
    http://civilwarwomenblog.com/flora-stuart/
    Bonus: According to a reading of his Gettysburg Report: Dr. Henry Janes (from Vermont) was left in general charge of the hospitals and gave him the full power to call upon the Surgeon-General to supply any want that might arise. It appears that, according to Dr. Letterman’s report, on July 9th, General Herman Haupt assumed military control and with his vast knowledge of trains was able to transport thousands of Union wounded to various hospitals for care. However from reading these reports, it appears there were many surgeons (and nurses as in Cornelia Hancock) involved in the care and the immediate transport of wounded to various hospitals, and in some cases, even private homes in and around the area as well as the formation by mid-July of Camp Letterman after the battle.
    https://ehistory.osu.edu/exhibitions/cwsurgeon/cwsurgeon/gburgreport
    http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/civil/Gettysburg/Gettysburgrpt.html
    http://vermontcivilwar.org/medic/janes-intro.php
     
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    Said by J.E.B Stuart to Philip St. George Cooke

    Bonus 1/ Dr. John McNulty
    Bonus 2/ Dr. Henry Janes
     
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    Jeb Stuart about Phil St George Cooke.

    Edit - No answer given for bonus question.

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    James Ewell Brown Stuart said this about his father in law, Col. Philip St. George Cook.
    Source Wikipedia


    Surgeon Henry Janes was left in charge of camp Letterman and took over responsibility for the wounded and hospitals.
    Source....Medical recollections of the army of the Potomac. written by Dr. Letterman
     
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    Said by JEB Stuart about his father in law Philip St. George Cooke when he learned that Cooke would serve in the Union Army.

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    Credit for question.
     
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    Gen. J.E.B. Stuart said about his father-in-law, Gen. Philip St. George Cooke, when the latter declined to resign from the United States Army in order to join the Confederacy, "He will regret it but once, and that will be continuously." Son-in-law Jeb did his best to fulfill that prophecy when on the Virginia Peninsula he led his father-in-law on a merry chase when riding around McClellan. Cooke commanded the Union cavalry at the time and never managed to catch up!

    Edit - No answer given for bonus question.

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    Bonus:
    (1) Dr. Henry Janes, US Volunteers
    http://civilwarrx.blogspot.com/2013/07/camp-letterman-gettysburg.html:
    "Dr. Henry Janes, surgeon for U.S. Volunteers, was left in charge of the various field hospitals at Gettysburg"
    http://www.americancivilwar.com/kids_zone/civil_war_medicine.html:
    "Dr. Letterman was forced to leave Gettysburg with the army in the pursuit of the Confederates, but he assigned Surgeon Henry James to the task of supervising the gathering and treatment of all the wounded in the area." [emphasis mine] [All other sources spell his name Janes]
    https://ehistory.osu.edu/exhibitions/cwsurgeon/cwsurgeon/gburgreport ( Dr. Letterman's own report on Gettysburg):
    "Dr. [Henry] Janes, who was left in charge of the hospitals at Gettysburg, reports that quite a number of surgeons came and volunteered their services, but "they were of little use." This fact is so well known in this army that medical officers prefer to do the work rather than have them present, and the wounded men, too, are much better satisfied to be attended by their own surgeons. I, however, asked the Surgeon-General, July 7, to send 20 medical officers to report to Dr. Janes, hoping they might prove of some benefit, under the direction of the medical officers of this army who had been left behind." [emphasis mine]

    (2) Also Dr. Henry Janes
    http://npshistory.com/series/symposia/gettysburg_seminars/13/essay5.pdf Outstanding article by NPS Ranger Matthew Atkinson:
    p. 103: "Letterman assigned the supervision of this vast general hospital to Dr. Henry Janes. . . . [emphasis mine] He was well prepared for his duties at Camp Letterman. By mid-August, one assistant superintendent, seven division surgeons, and twenty-six ward surgeons were present to assist Janes in his work."
    p. 110: "On September 23, one of the more memorable events for the staff and patients occurred at a picnic held on the grounds. With the approval of Dr. Janes. . ." [Shows Dr.Janes was still in charge as of late September]
     
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    Jeb Stuart about his Father in law Brig. Gen. Philip St. George Cooke who served in the Union Army
    Source: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Jeb_Stuart

    Bonus: 1) Dr. Letterman was forced to leave Gettysburg with the army in the pursuit of the Confederates, but he assigned Surgeon Henry James to the task of supervising the gathering and treatment of all the wounded in the area.
    Source: http://www.americancivilwar.com/kids_zone/civil_war_medicine.html

    2) Dr. James was left in general charge of the hospitals, and, to provide against contingencies, was directed, if he could not communicate with me, to do so directly with the Surgeon-General Hammond, so that he had full power to call directly upon the Surgeon-General to supply any want that might arise.
    Source: https://ehistory.osu.edu/exhibitions/cwsurgeon/cwsurgeon/gburgreport
     
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    I wish there was a way to attach this to my previous response - but I can't so here goes -
    As I read the bonus question - 2nd part again, and after further reading I go back to this; Surgeon Henry Janes —“probably best known for being in charge of all the military hospitals in the Gettysburg area after the bloodiest battle of the Civil War” (first reference). According to a report written by Edwin P. Vollum, Medical Inspector U. S. Army he stated the following regarding Janes: Every train of wounded was placed in charge of a medical officer detailed by Surgeon H. Janes. Instruments, dressings, stimulants, etc., this was dated July 11th (second reference). So it would appear it was Dr. Janes that took over care of the wounded. However, as far as moving the wounded out of the area to other hospitals I look to General Herman Haupt as Wikipedia reports: “(he) was particularly effective in supporting the Gettysburg Campaign, conducted in an area he knew well from his youth. His hastily organized trains kept the Union Army well supplied, and he organized the returning trains to carry thousands of Union wounded to hospitals”, and Edwin Vollum also notes in his report: The telegraph wires were down, and the obstruction to transportation seemed insurmountable until General Haupt arrived and assumed military control of the road to Hanover Junction (second reference) by accomplishing this supplies were able to get to where they were needed. So the General was able to send out wounded and bring in medicine and supplies.

    It also seems that work was completed quickly at Gettysburg to move the wounded out. There was help from United States Sanitary Commission and the United States Christian Commission. John Calhoun Chamberlain - brother Joshua was at Gettysburg and served for the USCC, but what is really remarkable was by Aug. 7, 1863 all the field hospitals were closed, except for the 3,000 that remained at Camp Letterman and by November, 1863 the tents were packed and the doctors and nurses were moving on to other battles (third reference).

    So how to answer the 2nd part of the question - Dr. Janes was in charge of the the care of the wounded, but was greatly helped by many military and civilians personnel.

    http://vermontcivilwar.org/medic/janes-intro.php
    http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/civil/Gettysburg/Gettysburgrpt.html
    http://www.americancivilwar.com/kids_zone/civil_war_medicine.html
     
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    The full statement "He will regret it but once, and that will be continuously." was written by future Confederate Genereal Jeb Stuart to his brother-in-law, future Confederate General John Rodgers Cooke, about Stuart's father-in-law, future Union General Philip St. George Cooke upon learning the elder Cooke would remain loyal to the Union.

    Bonus: 1. Surgeon Henry Janes. 2. U.S. Sanitary and Christian Commissions.
     
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    Jeb Stuart about his father-in-law, Philip St. George Cooke, and the laters decision to stay with Union.

    Bonus 1 should be Henry Janes. Bonus 2... maybe later.
     
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    James Ewell "Jeb" Brown Stuart said this about Brig. Gen. Philip St. George Cooke-his father-in-law.
    source-http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Jeb_Stuart

    bonus-
    1-Before leaving Gettysburg, Letterman assigned the overall treatment of the wounded to Dr. Henry Janes, a young and inexperienced surgeon who had demonstrated the knack for organization that Letterman so highly valued.
    source-https://books.google.com/books?id=v...o+go+with+meade&source=bl&ots=dyOvyjFYSu&sig=
    source-http://www.civilwaralbum.com/gettysburg/hospitals16.htm
    source-Surgeon in Blue: Jonathan Letterman by Scott McGaugh.
    2-Dr. Henry Janes, who was left in charge of the hospitals at Gettysburg, reports that quite a number of surgeons came and volunteered their services, but "they were of little use."
    source-https://ehistory.osu.edu/exhibitions/cwsurgeon/cwsurgeon/gburgreport
    source-Surgeon in Blue: Jonathan Letterman by Scott McGaugh.
     

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