Pickett Justice or Atrocity: Gen. George Pickett and the Kinston, NC Hangings.

Which means absolutely nothing for units raised under Confederate authorization for Confederate service.....ignore the actual apple for some disingenuous orange......I'm not pursuing your fantasy, but simply stating actual events.

Partisan rangers were authorised by Confederate Congress for Confederate service, not individual states.

Which is actually somewhat irrelevant to the OP as even if one wishes to believe otherwise....when they were transfered to the 66th they would have become Confederate regardless.....which made them Confederate deserters liable for punishment as such, by not only Confederate law, but US military code as well.
I'm stating actual NC policy. When these men enlisted in the state service, it was their understanding that they would remain in state service. So any 'transfer' violated the terms of their enlistment.

They were not confederates. Not by the terms of their enlistment. The punishment for the crime of desertion would have come under state law for state troops. And by state law, it was not a crime punishable by death. That's the relevant fact that you ignore.
 
I'm stating actual NC policy. When these men enlisted in the state service, it was their understanding that they would remain in state service. So any 'transfer' violated the terms of their enlistment.

They were not confederates. Not by the terms of their enlistment. The punishment for the crime of desertion would have come under state law for state troops. And by state law, it was not a crime punishable by death. That's the relevant fact that you ignore.
No your not at all, as been explained, partisan rangers were not raised by states, but under Confederate authority.
 
If the other poster had access to the North Carolina Troops, 1861-1865, A Roster, especially volume XV, he would have a better understanding of the actual events. Goodness knows where he is getting his information.
I posted a link earlier to the documents and transcript of the board of inquiry which investigated this incident.

Most of what is posted in this thread is unsupported opinion. I've supported my opinion.
 
No your not at all, as been explained, partisan rangers were not raised by states, but under Confederate authority.
Go back to the links and the NC policy. You're simply wrong.

I repeat:
I'm stating actual NC policy. When these men enlisted in the state service, it was their understanding that they would remain in state service. So any 'transfer' violated the terms of their enlistment.

They were not confederates. Not by the terms of their enlistment. The punishment for the crime of desertion would have come under state law for state troops. And by state law, it was not a crime punishable by death. That's the relevant fact that you ignore.
 
If the other poster had access to the North Carolina Troops, 1861-1865, A Roster, especially volume XV, he would have a better understanding of the actual events. Goodness knows where he is getting his information.
There's little reason to explain anything, as he simply ignores anything that doesn't fit his theories.......doesn't matter if it was actually US or CS law, or the CS authorisation structure.
 
Go back to the links and the NC policy. You're simply wrong.

I repeat:
I'm stating actual NC policy. When these men enlisted in the state service, it was their understanding that they would remain in state service. So any 'transfer' violated the terms of their enlistment.

They were not confederates. Not by the terms of their enlistment. The punishment for the crime of desertion would have come under state law for state troops. And by state law, it was not a crime punishable by death. That's the relevant fact that you ignore.
No am not, the Confederate Partisan Ranger act is matter of record.

As was their transfer to the 66th, to claim they never were in Confederate army is simply fantasy. As would be their was any US crime, or CS crime. And you know no crime was ever even charged other then of the condemned, and they were found guilty
 
No am not, the Confederate Partisan Ranger act is matter of record.

As was their transfer to the 66th, to claim they never were in Confederate army is simply fantasy. As would be their was any US crime, or CS crime.
The state policy is a matter of record. It was a state crime, not CS and not US.
 
No am not, the Confederate Partisan Ranger act is matter of record.

As was their transfer to the 66th, to claim they never were in Confederate army is simply fantasy. As would be their was any US crime, or CS crime.
It makes you wonder if it is a crime to transfer the National Guard to Federal service in time of war?
 
That is a completely unsurprising point of view. But I find an official board of inquiry more credible than partisan denial.
I doubt the folks at the North Carolina Archives in Raleigh are all that partisan. I have the first 18 of the 20 volumes and it's been my experience that they tell the bad along with the good.
 
Well you seem to ignore the state never charged or even alleged it was a crime.....so there is nothing that supports that fantasy...

Which fantasy it is, as they were Confederate deserters both under partisan ranger act, and being transferred to the 66th
They were executed by Pickett. The state never had a chance.

You keep insulting my opinion as a fantasy, but my opinion is actually supported by evidence and facts.
 
I doubt the folks at the North Carolina Archives in Raleigh are all that partisan. I have the first 18 of the 20 volumes and it's been my experience that they tell the bad along with the good.
Does the NC Archives claim that the board of inquiry was mickey mouse?
 
They were executed by Pickett. The state never had a chance.

You keep insulting my opinion as a fantasy, but my opinion is actually supported by evidence and facts.
Actually the Confederate state of NC had over a year to offer charges.....not sure how one thinks that is no chance....and no you continually ignore facts and events for opinion.....

As you know the reality is US offered no charges........the CSA offered no charges........and the state of NC offered no charges.....none of three concluded they were warrented.

So I note the actual reality and final opinion of not one....but three actual governmental jurisdictions.
 
Actually the Confederate state of NC had over a year to offer charges.....not sure how one thinks that is no chance....and no you continually ignore facts and events for opinion.....
I imagine they had a lot of things to worry about during that period, rather than finding ten or so deserters from state service.

If you think this is relevant to the discussion, you should come up with evidence that the state was aware of their desertion and chose not to charge them.
 
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