Lincoln Conspiracy, the Evidence For

I've always wondered why they shot Booth rather than capture him for trial. You'd think the US government would want to make an example of a presidential assassin.
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My understanding is that the troopers were told to take Booth alive. To that end the cavalry commander tried to negotiate Booth out of the barn but was meeting no success. The barn had been set on fire & Sgt Boston Corbet claimed to see Booth raise his carbine to fire at men trying to enter the barn & he felt that he had to shoot Booth in order to protect his fellow troopers. His aim was true & he hit Booth in the neck. Keep in mind that Booth took refuge in a tobacco drying barn which typically has 4-6 inch openings between boards to allow for ventilation to circulate air to help dry & cure the hanging tobacco. I’m sure Corbet had a close & clear shot to hit Booth. Anyway that was Corbets story & he stuck to it. He received a portion of the reward money for his part in the capture of Booth but I can’t recall how much it was. It was a 4 figure number IIRC.
 
As I understand there's a serious problem with the story of the lunatic and later self-castrated religious fanatic Boston Corbett. Supposedly as a cavalry trooper should be, he was armed with (only) a carbine that was a larger caliber than the revolver bullet that was determined to have struck Booth down. As if to accommodate this discrepancy, he was soon afterward photographed at Brady's Washington studio wearing a holstered Colt Army revolver and standing alongside the lieutenant who commanded the detachment. (This has been suggested as another attempt at a government cover-up by Stanton and the Radicals.)
 
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Boston Corbett was not the most sane person around even then, he was known as odd and very eccentric, even erratic. He also worked as a hatter before and after the war. Corbett was also known for his strong religious sentiment.
 
joseph lynch while doing research on the missing pages claimed in 1975 to have found them I did not know the outcome just the story. Also the individual soldier who removed the book from booth and gave it to the war Department claimed it was intact from their it was handed to Sec. Stanton.. And that is where they believe the pages were removed . There is more information on the Internet just ask booth diary missing pages.
 
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Boston Corbett was not the most sane person around even then, he was known as odd and very eccentric, even erratic. He also worked as a hatter before and after the war. He was also known for his strong religious sentiment.

Thanks. mofederal; that was exactly the supposedly trumped-up photo I was talking about. As for Corbett's eccentricities, supposedly they had been remarked on by his fellow soldiers who thought he was crazy. I suppose by mentioning his occupation you were referencing the idea that working around the strong chemicals used in the trade tended to reduce practitioners to be mad as a hatter.
 
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IMO the missing pages were used by Booth & possibly Harold as toilet paper. They were out in swamp & im sure “natured called” during their stay out there.
I have actually had the same thought! But at the same time they were brought newspapers which could have been used as well.

joseph lynch while doing research on the missing pages claimed in 1975 to have found them I did not know the outcome just the story. Also the individual soldier who removed the book from booth and gave it to the war Department claimed it was intact from their it was handed to Sec. Stanton.. And that is where they believe the pages were removed . There is more information on the Internet just ask booth diary missing pages.
I will see what I can find on this. Thanks.
 
I have actually had the same thought! But at the same time they were brought newspapers which could have been used as well.


I will see what I can find on this. Thanks.
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I’ve thought about the newspapers also & thought that possibly they were used as fire starters but I’m just speculating. They were out in that swamp for some time. What a miserable place to hole up. The mosquitoes would have driven me crazy but they probably would make me forget about my broken leg.
 
I'm gonna' watch this one, too. Thanks for sharing :smile: Maybe we could all watch it and compare notes at the weekend? (which is probably when I'm most likely to get the time). Either way, I will continue to watch this thread with interest...
I've started watching it during my break times so sure, would be happy to do that. Keep in mind the movie is old and of the 70s quality...so don't expect Oscar award performances!
Finally managed to watch the whole thing and it raises a lot of questions which may have already been answered in some of the books written about it. Here goes:

Was there an explanation for Parker’s (the President's personal guard) lateness, and what reason did he give for leaving his post during the performance? Did the President request another guard, and is it possible Stanton also refused one on the night?

Was there any explanation given as to why there was no guard on the Navy Yard Bridge that night?

I heard no further mention of the telegraph lines. Were they out of order that night? Was there an explanation?

I still don’t understand what the plan was meant to be after kidnapping the President (if there ever was such a plan). Were they going to blame it on Southerners? How was it going to change what was currently underway with regard to the President's plans? I'd need a bit more insight into the reasoning behind this before I could accept this alternate theory

Did Lincoln really give a speech to the crowds with regard to Louisiana, and welcoming her citizens back?

OMG! It wasn’t Booth that was shot, but Davey. Did those involved in the search really have to sign a paper agreeing not to speak of it?

No diary produced, and no defence for the accused at trial. Seem suspicious to me. Why not just burn the diary when it came to hand, and get rid of it all together, rather than just tearing a few pages out??

Last, but not least, it seems Booth got away with it after all! Davey being shot in Booth's place was the biggest twist in this theory for me. Pure dumb luck for both of them it would seem. That's if the theory is plausible. And, of course, we will never know...
 
It was the Irish Catholics behind Lincoln's assassination...@huskerblitz

Snippet... https://www.fords.org/blog/post/mis...acy-theories-about-the-lincoln-assassination/

Keep in mind that the Republican Party contained a virulent anti-immigrant wing, formerly the Know-Nothings, with clear anti-Semitic and anti-Catholic overtones. Many of the convicted conspirators, including Mary Surratt, were ardent Catholics

This led to the theory that the Pope, or at least some high-placed Roman Catholics had a hand in Lincoln’s assassination. Irish immigrants generally opposed the war and supported the Democratic Party. A bloody riot in New York and other cities in 1863 against the Republican-initiated draft featured violence by Irish residents. The theory received further credence by the fact that Lincoln had once defended a priest against the Bishop of Chicago. And John Surratt, the son of Mary Surratt, fled the United States and, oddly, turned up at the Vatican.

Here is this... http://www.ncregister.com/blog/stephaniemann/a-jesuit-plot-to-assassinate-president-lincoln

You have probably never heard of a Jesuit plot to assassinate President Abraham Lincoln, because there wasn’t any. But after the capture and death of John Wilkes Booth on April 26, 1865, authorities began to explore the conspiracy Booth and others had planned to murder the President, the Vice President, and the Secretary of State on Good Friday, April 14 that year. They discovered one common theme: all the conspirators met at the boarding house owned by Mary Surratt.

Mary Jenkins Surratt was a Catholic, having converted before her marriage to John Surratt in 1840. Everyone who had rooms in her house was a Catholic. Her son John, Jr.—who escaped capture and trial for a time by seeking sanctuary in a Montreal church rectory and then as a Papal Zouave—was a Catholic and had discerned and decided against a vocation to the priesthood. Another accomplice, David Herold, had studied at Catholic colleges including Georgetown. Dr. Samuel Mudd, who set Booth’s broken leg, was a Catholic. One of the main witnesses for the prosecution, Louis J. Weichmann, was a former seminary classmate of John Surratt. Several of the witnesses for the defense were Catholic priests, testifying to Mary Surratt’s Christian character and charity. Another Catholic boarder, Honora Fitzpatrick, was a witness for both the prosecution and the defense at the military tribunal that condemned the conspirators in May and June, 1865.

Note: John Wilkes Booth's sister Asia converted to Catholicism and JWB and her were very close... After converting to Roman Catholicism, Asia had her children baptized in the church
 
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Here is a paper trying to disprove the Catholic plot...

https://churchhistcan.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/2001-8-laverdure-article.pdf

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CharlesChiniquy was born in Beauport, near Quebec City, in 1809. As an ordained Roman Catholic priest he gained fame as a powerful temperance preacher until his exile to the United States where he left the CatholicChurch and eventually joined the Old School Synod Presbyterian Church of Illinois. After a series of sensational exposésofsupposedCatholic immorality, published most notably in 1875 The Priest, the woman and the confessional, 2 he published his first autobiography in 1885. This was a hefty collection of his anti-Catholic pamphlets, together titled FiftyYearsin theChurch of Rome, in which one section was dedicated to joining religion toLincoln’smurder. It was Chiniquy’s conviction that “Boothwasnothing but the tool of the Jesuits.ItwasRomewhodirectedhisarm, after corrupting his heart and damning his soul.”

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I will not indulge in an ad-hominem argument,givingChiniquy’sbiographyanddiscreditinghim and his anti-Catholicism. We do not have the time and others, most notably MarcelTrudel and I, have already done so at length elsewhere. 3Chiniquy’s theories can be divided into the following two statements.(1)TheCatholic Church was antagonistic to the Northern Union, to republicanism, and to Lincolnwhorepresentedthe republicanidealsoftheUnitedStates.Lincoln, therefore, was a targetforCatholic hatreds.(2)Lincoln’s the assassination had been announced in certain RomanCatholic circles before it had taken place. So, Booth and the conspirators were Roman Catholics and tools manipulated by the Jesuits.
 
Here is more Lincoln was hired by Charles Chiniquy for a libel case. It was Lincoln most high profile libel case ever.

From wiki...

Charles P. Chiniquy (30 July 1809 – 16 January 1899) was a Canadian Catholic priest who left the Roman Catholic Church and became a Presbyterian minister. He rode the lecture circuit denouncing the Catholic Church. His themes were that it was pagan, that Catholics worship the Virgin Mary, and that its theology is anti-Christian. He warned of plots by the Vatican to take control of the United States by importing Catholic immigrants from Ireland, Germany, and France, and suggested that the Vatican was behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.[1]

In 1855, he was sued by a prominent Catholic layman named Peter Spink in Kankakee, Illinois. After the fall court term, Spink applied for a change of venue to the court in Urbana. Abraham Lincoln was then hired by Chiniquy to defend him. The spring court action in Urbana was the highest profile libel suit in Lincoln's career.[2] The case was ended in the fall court session by agreement.[3]

Chiniquy clashed with the Bishop of Chicago, Anthony O'Regan, over the bishop's treatment of Catholics in Chicago, particularly French Canadians. He declared that O'Regan was secretly backing Spink's suit against him. Chiniquy stated that in 1856 O'Regan threatened him with excommunication if he did not go to a new location where the bishop wanted him. Several months later the New York Times published a pastoral letter from Bishop O'Regan in which O'Regan stated that he had suspended Chiniquy and, since the priest had continued in his normal duties as a priest, the bishop excommunicated him by his letter. Chiniquy vigorously disputed that he had been excommunicated, saying publicly that the bishop was mistaken. Chiniquy left the Roman Catholic Church in 1858.[2]He claimed that the church was pagan, that Roman Catholics worship the Virgin Mary, that its theology spoils the Gospel and that its theology is anti-Christian.[4] He also claimed that the Vatican had planned to take over the United States by importing Catholic immigrants from Ireland, Germany and France.

Chiniquy claimed that he was falsely accused by his superiors (and that Abraham Lincoln had come to his rescue), that the American Civil War was a plot against the United States of America by the Vatican, and that the Vatican was behind the Confederate cause, the death of President Lincoln and that Lincoln's assassins were faithful Roman Catholics ultimately serving Pope Pius IX.


Here how is cased ended a draw... The case ended in two mistrials and Lincoln then resolved the case..

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2...ty-in-abraham-lincolns?rgn=main;view=fulltext

Lincoln then intervened; Whitney noted that Lincoln "abhorred that class of litigation, in which [there] was no utility, and he used his utmost influence with all parties, and finally effected a compromise."[91] After convincing the parties to settle, Lincoln prepared the agreement of dismissal, which read: "This day came the parties and the defendant denies that he has ever charged, or believed the plaintiff to be guilty of Perjury; that whatever he has said from which such a charge could be inferred, he said on the information of others, protesting his own disbelief in the charge; and that he now disclaims any belief in the truth of such charge against said plaintiff." The parties agreed to divide court costs and to dismiss the case. [92]
 
So I've read a number of books on the assassination and the conspirators.

I found a web site that goes in detail how the Catholics assassinated Lincoln most shrugged their shoulders when hearing this but the Jesuits have been the backbone of many conspiracies in History.

A defender of the Jesuits assassination list...

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2013/07/11/no-the-jesuits-didnt-kill-abraham-lincoln/

The Society of Jesus has been putting up with this kind of nonsense for a very long time and no myth has been quite so persistent as the supposed Jesuit addiction to political assassination. In the mid-17th century, one William Crashaw denounced the burgeoning Jesuit educational project as a sham: the real reason behind all the schools, Crashaw opined, was to “pick out the finest young wits of the world” and “train them up [so] that the pope will never want instruments to kill kings”. The subsequent roster of supposed Jesuit targets (some despatched, others not) is impressive: Henry III, Henry IV, and Louis XIV of France, various English monarchs and an alarming number of US Presidents: William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, James A Garfield, William McKinley and Abraham Lincoln among them.

Here is the site that goes into detail behind the Catholic gang that assassinated Lincoln...

http://www.truthontheweb.org/abe.htm

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The Secret Treaty of Verona
The beginning of the nineteenth century was a time of change for the papacy of Rome. Pius VII was Pope (from 1800-23) and had issued a condemnation of bible societies as 'a most abominable invention that destroyed the very foundations of religion.' This new era of liberty and republics had diminished much of the papal power but had nowhere near paralyzed them. They strongly hated these freedoms and continually were they set on destroying them and on regaining their former absolute power as in the time of the Inquisitions. The United States -and its President - were obstacles that had to be dealt with.

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The Jesuit Oath
The execution of the treaty's plans was placed under the watchful eye of the Jesuits. The equality of all men taught by Christ has always been hated and feared by the Jesuits despite all their protestations of supporting Christianity. The plans laid by these men are very long range and quite detailed and have but one goal.
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It will be well for the reader to understand that the church of Rome with its sixteen centuries of intrigue, plans fifty or a hundred years ahead. The ultimate goal is to throw the lever of time back by restoring the Pope as the "universal arbiter" from whom all the rulers of the earth must receive their authority to rule, as during the Dark Ages."~

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The Jesuits and the political powers of the Holy Alliance had soon set their sights on the United States. The U.S. was a model to other nations of how a new republic could "break away" and this gave these other "rebels" strength in hope. If they could make an example out of the U.S. they would be in better position to crush any other "new" popular (representative) governments. Very soon, the young American nation would elect its 16th President who strongly believed in a representative government and this man would be an obstacle that, by their oath, the Jesuits must depose or destroy.

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The Pope Marks Lincoln for Death
The Pope, at this time, in Rome was Pius IXth (1846-78). Pius was the first Pope to officially declare himself to be 'infallible'. He also was very close to the General of the Jesuits, also called the Black Pope, who at this time was Cardinal Giacomo Antonelli. Pius was on very good terms with Jeff Davis and wrote him acknowledging him with such titles as "honorable Mr. President" - titles which showed his approval of the Confederates States of America as a sovereign entity and Davis as its leader.
On June 10th, 1864, Lincoln took Chiniquy for a ride in his carriage to talk inbetween his visits to the thirty thousand wounded soldiers picked up on the battle-fields of the seven days' battle of the Wilderness, and the thirty days' battle around Richmond. The only thought which seemed to occupy the mind of the President was the part which Rome had in that horrible struggle. Chiniquy tells us that Abraham Lincoln said the following words more than once:


There is even but I just want to set up the plot... for the catholic Gang...
 
I found a web site that goes in detail how the Catholics assassinated Lincoln most shrugged their shoulders when hearing this but the Jesuits have been the backbone of many conspiracies in History.

A defender of the Jesuits assassination list...

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2013/07/11/no-the-jesuits-didnt-kill-abraham-lincoln/

The Society of Jesus has been putting up with this kind of nonsense for a very long time and no myth has been quite so persistent as the supposed Jesuit addiction to political assassination. In the mid-17th century, one William Crashaw denounced the burgeoning Jesuit educational project as a sham: the real reason behind all the schools, Crashaw opined, was to “pick out the finest young wits of the world” and “train them up [so] that the pope will never want instruments to kill kings”. The subsequent roster of supposed Jesuit targets (some despatched, others not) is impressive: Henry III, Henry IV, and Louis XIV of France, various English monarchs and an alarming number of US Presidents: William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, James A Garfield, William McKinley and Abraham Lincoln among them.

Here is the site that goes into detail behind the Catholic gang that assassinated Lincoln...

http://www.truthontheweb.org/abe.htm

Snippets...

The Secret Treaty of Verona
The beginning of the nineteenth century was a time of change for the papacy of Rome. Pius VII was Pope (from 1800-23) and had issued a condemnation of bible societies as 'a most abominable invention that destroyed the very foundations of religion.' This new era of liberty and republics had diminished much of the papal power but had nowhere near paralyzed them. They strongly hated these freedoms and continually were they set on destroying them and on regaining their former absolute power as in the time of the Inquisitions. The United States -and its President - were obstacles that had to be dealt with.

Snippet...

The Jesuit Oath
The execution of the treaty's plans was placed under the watchful eye of the Jesuits. The equality of all men taught by Christ has always been hated and feared by the Jesuits despite all their protestations of supporting Christianity. The plans laid by these men are very long range and quite detailed and have but one goal.
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It will be well for the reader to understand that the church of Rome with its sixteen centuries of intrigue, plans fifty or a hundred years ahead. The ultimate goal is to throw the lever of time back by restoring the Pope as the "universal arbiter" from whom all the rulers of the earth must receive their authority to rule, as during the Dark Ages."~

Snippet...

The Jesuits and the political powers of the Holy Alliance had soon set their sights on the United States. The U.S. was a model to other nations of how a new republic could "break away" and this gave these other "rebels" strength in hope. If they could make an example out of the U.S. they would be in better position to crush any other "new" popular (representative) governments. Very soon, the young American nation would elect its 16th President who strongly believed in a representative government and this man would be an obstacle that, by their oath, the Jesuits must depose or destroy.

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The Pope Marks Lincoln for Death
The Pope, at this time, in Rome was Pius IXth (1846-78). Pius was the first Pope to officially declare himself to be 'infallible'. He also was very close to the General of the Jesuits, also called the Black Pope, who at this time was Cardinal Giacomo Antonelli. Pius was on very good terms with Jeff Davis and wrote him acknowledging him with such titles as "honorable Mr. President" - titles which showed his approval of the Confederates States of America as a sovereign entity and Davis as its leader.
On June 10th, 1864, Lincoln took Chiniquy for a ride in his carriage to talk inbetween his visits to the thirty thousand wounded soldiers picked up on the battle-fields of the seven days' battle of the Wilderness, and the thirty days' battle around Richmond. The only thought which seemed to occupy the mind of the President was the part which Rome had in that horrible struggle. Chiniquy tells us that Abraham Lincoln said the following words more than once:


There is even but I just want to set up the plot... for the catholic Gang...
All this shows is that nineteenth-century anti-Catholicism still exists on the internet.
 
All this shows is that nineteenth-century anti-Catholicism still exists on the internet.

Did you read the earlier post a lot of Catholics had a hand in the assassination of Lincoln... Then one sneaks off to Catholic Canada and then to Rome and the Pope... I bet your conspiracy bones are itching...
 
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