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Andersonh1's Abbreviated List of Alleged Southern Complaints against the Union Army
Good list to discuss.
Good list to discuss.
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PA History - Burning of Chambersburg
That incident included an actual atrocity as well, the murder of an African-American civilian.
Here we go again with Chambersburg as if it was the worst thing ever... so here's a partial list of towns burned by the Union Army. Maybe I'll start a thread and post details. And of course, none of this covers homes and farms and plantations that were looted and burned. I've posted a few details, but every incident has a story or outrage associated with it. Feel free to look them up.
You should move this to another thread since this has nothing to do with the OP and provide a source or sources for these burnings. It is not up to us to "look them up" when you are the one making the charge.
Here we go again with Chambersburg as if it was the worst thing ever... so here's a partial list of towns burned by the Union Army. Maybe I'll start a thread and post details. And of course, none of this covers homes and farms and plantations that were looted and burned. I've posted a few details, but every incident has a story or outrage associated with it. Feel free to look them up.
Osceola, Missouri, burned to the ground, September 24, 1861 - The town of 3,000 people was plundered and burned to the ground, 200 slaves were freed and nine local citizens were executed
Platte City - December 16, 1861 - "Colonel W. James Morgan marches from St. Joseph to Platte City. Once there, Morgan burns the city and takes three prisoners -- all furloughed or discharged Confederate soldiers. Morgan leads the prisoners to Bee Creek, where one is shot and a second is bayonetted, while the third is released. "
Dayton, Missouri, burned, January 1 to 3, 1862
Columbus, Missouri, burned, reported on January 13, 1862
Bentonville, Arkansas, partly burned, February 23, 1862 - a Federal search party set fire to the town after finding a dead Union soldier, burning most of it to the ground
Winton, North Carolina, burned, reported on February 21, 1862 - first NC town burned by the Union, and completely burned to the ground
Bledsoe's Landing, Arkansas, burned, October 21, 1862
Hamblin's, Arkansas, burned, October 21, 1862
Donaldsonville, Louisiana, partly burned, August 10, 1862
Athens, Alabama, partly burned, August 30, 1862
Randolph, Tennessee, burned, September 26, 1862
Elm Grove and Hopefield, Arkansas, burned, October 18, 1862
Fredericksburg December 11–15, 1862 - town not destroyed, but the Union army threw shells into a town full of civilians
Napoleon, Arkansas, partly burned, January 17, 1863
Mound City, Arkansas, partly burned, January 13, 1863
Hopefield, Arkansas, burned, February 21, 1863 - "Captain Lemon allowed residents one hour to remove personal items, and the men then burned every house in the village."
Eunice, Arkansas, burned, June 14, 1863
Gaines Landing, Arkansas, burned, June 15, 1863
Bluffton, South Carolina, burned, reported June 6, 1863 - "
Union troops, about 1,000 strong, crossed Calibogue Sound and eased up the May River in the pre-dawn fog, surprising ineffective pickets and having their way in an unoccupied village. Rebel troops put up a bit of a fight, but gunboats blasted away as two-thirds of the town was burned in less than four hours. After the Yankees looted furniture and left, about two-thirds of the town's 60 homes were destroyed."
Sibley, Missouri, burned June 28, 1863
Hernando, Mississippi, partly burned, April 21, 1863
Austin, Mississippi, burned, May 24, 1863 - "On May 24, a detachment of Union marines landed near Austin. They quickly marched to the town, ordered all of the townpeople out and burned down the town."
Columbus, Tennessee, burned, reported February 10, 1864
Meridian, Mississippi, destroyed, February 3 to March 6, 1864 (burned multiple times)
Washington, North Carolina, sacked and burned, April 20, 1864
Hallowell's Landing, Alabama, burned, reported May 14, 1864
Newtown, Virginia, May 30, 1864
Rome, Georgia, partly burned, November 11, 1864 - "Union soldiers were told to burn buildings the Confederacy could use in its war effort: railroad depots, storehouses, mills, foundries, factories and bridges. Despite orders to respect private property, some soldiers had their own idea. They ran through the city bearing firebrands, setting fire to what George M. Battey Jr. called harmless places."
Atlanta, Georgia, burned, November 15, 1864
Camden Point, Missouri, burned, July 14, 1864 -
Kendal's Grist-Mill, Arkansas, burned, September 3, 1864
Shenandoah Valley, devastated, reported October 1, 1864 by Sheridan. Washington College was sacked and burned during this campaign.
Griswoldville, Georgia, burned, November 21, 1864
Somerville, Alabama, burned, January 17, 1865
McPhersonville, South Carolina, burned, January 30, 1865
Barnwell, South Carolina, burned, reported February 9, 1865
Columbia, South Carolina, burned, reported February 17, 1865
Winnsborough, South Carolina, pillaged and partly burned, February 21, 1865
Tuscaloosa, Alabama, burned, April 4, 1865
Done. Lets discuss.Fair enough, and I'll do that at some point soon. But my point is if people are going to point at Chambersburg as an outrage, then they need to look at the many, many Southern towns burned and admit the multiple outrages perpetrated by the Union army against civilians, which are FAR greater in number and magnitude. There's no room to point fingers at the Confederates here as if the Union had clean hands in this regard.
Fair enough, and I'll do that at some point soon. But my point is if people are going to point at Chambersburg as an outrage, then they need to look at the many, many Southern towns burned and admit the multiple outrages perpetrated by the Union army against civilians, which are FAR greater in number and magnitude. There's no room to point fingers at the Confederates here as if the Union had clean hands in this regard.
Actually, retaliation such as the burning of Chambersburg, was a completely legal and accepted contemporary practice, as was the burning of Southern towns that held military depots, troops, facilities that supplied the Confederacy, or shielded guerrillas that attacked Federal forces.
ATROCITIES IN WAR. The history of warfare is replete with examples of atrocities, and the American experience offers no exception. Americans have been the perpetrators as well as the victims of atrocities. Sometimes referred to as war crimes, atrocities have usually involved torture, maiming, or killing of civilians and noncombatants; destruction of nonmilitary targets; maltreatment and killing of wounded and prisoners of war; and use of weapons to cause superfluous damage or injury.
Winton, North Carolina, which at least appears to have been deserted at the time. Not that the Union army knew that when the decision to burn the town was made.
http://www.ncpedia.org/winton-burning
Winton, the seat of Hertford County, was burned by Federal troops on 20 Feb. 1862. It was the first North Carolina town burned by Union forces during the Civil War and the only one burned completely. On 19 February a flotilla of eight Union gunboats steamed up the Chowan River. As the vessels approached Winton's wharf, Confederate artillery and infantry opened up from the river bluff, but the boats sustained no serious damage.
When the flotilla returned the next morning, Winton was deserted, but several buildings had clearly been used for Confederate billeting and storage. These were torched, resulting in a blaze that left only one small house standing. The Hertford County Courthouse had been destroyed in 1830, and virtually all records from 1830 to 1862 were consumed in this fire, along with several dozen houses, stores, and other buildings. The cooperation of Union army and navy forces in the action constituted one of the first amphibious operations in the history of the American military.
https://www.ncdcr.gov/blog/2014/02/20/burning-of-winton-by-union-troops-1862
On February 20, 1862, Union troops burned Winton, a small village in Hertford County overlooking the Chowan River.
The previous day, six gunboats transporting soldiers from New York and Rhode Island steamed up river to Winton, intent on destroying a railroad bridge. Confederate soldiers from North Carolina and Virginia opened fire on the vessels. Despite riddling the wheelhouse of the lead gunboat, the USS Delaware, the volley did little damage, and the shelling commenced. That night the Union fleet anchored seven miles south of Winton, and Federal officers decided that the town of 300 inhabitants should be burned.
The fleet returned to find the town almost completely abandoned. Soldiers, fresh from victory in the Battle of Roanoke Island, landed and took possession of Winton. The invaders burned military goods, along with the courthouse and several private homes; soldiers often ransacked homes before torching them.
Word of the destruction spread fast in newspapers, North and South. Southern editors fueled public outrage. A Norfolk paper proclaimed the action a “vile incendiary.” The action at Winton proved to be a precedent for the practice of “total war” embraced by Sherman later in the conflict.
Evidence?Chambersburg was not an outrage. And it wasn't an atrocity.
Was it a deliberate act of revenge targeting the reputation of Thaddeus Stevens, a leading proponent of emancipation?
Probably.
And the same thing happened in Columbia, SC.
Exactly words have meanings.An atrocity, to me, means people get killed. Lawrence, Kansas is the most obvious one, but I bet we can come up with some others.
On one hand I don't want to pretend that having the army rampage all over your farm and burn up a years old of labor and destroy many years of back breaking work isn't bad. But the words have meaning, and atrocity doesn't mean damage to property. I wouldn't call Early's burning of Chambersburg an atrocity, although it was appalling. Capt. Semmes and the other commerce raiders captured and destroyed US merchant ships, but they didn't make anyone walk the plank, so I have a hard time with calling their actions "atrocities," but rather on the same level as Early, or Sheridan.