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I never said it was all Douglas' fault – at worst a miscalculation on his part that ended up going nowhere.Ah, so it was all Douglas's fault.
I never said it was all Douglas' fault – at worst a miscalculation on his part that ended up going nowhere.Ah, so it was all Douglas's fault.
I think southern Democrats had something to do with the breakup of the Democratic party. Something.I never said it was all Douglas' fault – at worst a miscalculation on his part that ended up going nowhere.
An idea you may want to keep in mind before posting. If slavery had been unconstitutional, it wouldn't have taken a postwar constitutional amendment to make it illegal nationwide.
Northern racism does not excuse southern slavery, and vice versa.I don't believe that I have read anywhere on this board where folks deny that there was plenty of racism to go around (yes, this includes the North) However, there is a long travel between slavery and racism.
Northern racism does not excuse southern slavery, and vice versa.
It's the same man, absolutely. That's one of the reasons I posted that quote, to show that he wasn't fixated on slavery to the exclusion of all else. That the same men who talked about slavery as a motivation for independence also understood that there were many other motivations.
The staunch Union defenders on these boards hammer away constantly at "slavery, slavery and nothing but slavery", and will invariably quote some Confederate talking about slavery or the declaration of causes as if that's all they ever said and assume that ends all discussion, while conveniently ignoring everything else they ever said. And did you yourself not just bring up the Cornerstone speech in relation to Alexander Stephens? That's the first place you went when you saw his name. It illustrates my point.
Oh, I don't know about that. It was still legal in the US at that time so it would appear as if it was an American Cornerstone. IMO
Never said that slavery was unconstitutional before the war, or even before 1865. If you believe otherwise, offer proof. Thanks!
I do too.I think southern Democrats had something to do with the breakup of the Democratic party. Something.
Hey, they already had that right under the US Constitution. Live with it!!
An idea you may want to keep in mind before posting. If slavery had been unconstitutional, it wouldn't have taken a postwar constitutional amendment to make it illegal nationwide.
The staunch Union defenders on these boards hammer away constantly at "slavery, slavery and nothing but slavery", and will invariably quote some Confederate talking about slavery or the declaration of causes as if that's all they ever said and assume that ends all discussion, while conveniently ignoring everything else they ever said. And did you yourself not just bring up the Cornerstone speech in relation to Alexander Stephens? That's the first place you went when you saw his name. It illustrates my point.
Not me.Who argued it was unconstitutional?
emphasis mine
here we go again - that would be 79 years, and till then labour to pick cotton was in great demand
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thisone is obviously a more modern type
how dare you i used that link four times so far (in four different threads). i got accustomed to it like a cotton patriach to his farm handsA more detailed history and additional resource I found @Schwallanscher. It is one to bookmark for future use.
Bolding is mine.
By the mid-1930s the widespread use of mechanical cotton harvesters seemed imminent and inevitable. When in 1935 the Rust brothers moved to Memphis, the self-styled headquarters of the Cotton South, John Rust announced flatly, “The sharecropper system of the Old South will have to be abandoned.” The Rust picker could do the work of between 50 and 100 hand pickers, reducing labor needs by 75 percent. Rust expected to put the machine on the market within a year. A widely read article in the American Mercury entitled “The Revolution in Cotton” predicted the end of the entire plantation system. Most people compared the Rust picker with Eli Whitney’s cotton gin.
further down at the link
The most controversial issue raised by the introduction of the mechanical cotton harvester has been its role in the Great Migration. Popular opinion has accepted the view that machines eliminated jobs and forced poor families to leave their homes and farms in a forlorn search for urban jobs. On the other hand agricultural experts argued that mechanization was not the cause, but the result of economic change in the Cotton South. Wartime and postwar labor shortages were the major factors in stimulating the use of machines in cotton fields. Most of the out-migration from the South stemmed from a desire to obtain high paying jobs in northern industries, not from an “enclosure” movement motivated by landowners who mechanized as rapidly as possible. Indeed, the South’s cotton farmers were often reluctant to make the transition from hand labor, which was familiar and workable, to machines, which were expensive and untried.
https://eh.net/encyclopedia/mechanical-cotton-picker/
Snidley, scrawny, sketchy, snakley, smoothy?What birthright did Lincoln endanger? What property did Lincoln's election endanger? What did white southerners say endangered their hearths and homes as a result of Lincoln's election?
Hint: Fill in the blanks.
S - - - - - Y
Snidley, scrawny, sketchy, snakley, smoothy?
If we are discussing Lincoln, saintly?I am convinced you will come up with it.