Feb 20, 2017 at 9:49 PM -
JerseyBart: The confederacy messing with PA was messing with our history.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:50 PM -
MaryDee: Yes, for once the psychological advantage of defending their own soil was on the Union side
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:52 PM -
JerseyBart: And not just home soil, but the birthplace of the country...loved it.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:52 PM -
Jamieva: I don't buy Charles Marshall's account of Lee having pneumonia in 63 that was deadly back then
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM -
JerseyBart: True, but so was chamberlain's wound.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM -
PeterT: It was angina wasn't it?
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM -
Jamieva: It was some type of heart issue
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM -
MaryDee: People did recover from pneumonia, though.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM -
Jamieva: I think
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM -
MaryDee: Charles Marshall was hardly a medical diagnostician
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM -
Jamieva: Agreed
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:55 PM -
Jamieva: His Ewell theory for July 1 is interesting I never thought of it that way
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:55 PM -
Jamieva: Not saying I totally agree but interesting theory
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM -
MaryDee: That Ewell basically forced the battle because Heth had already withdrawn?
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM -
MaryDee: I agree with Jamie on that one.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM -
JerseyBart: I understand ewell's success being a serious reason to stay, but the decision to stay stays with Lee.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:56 PM -
Jamieva: That Ewells attack commited Lee to stay
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:57 PM -
Jamieva: And the decision for Ewell to attack was lees as well right?
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:57 PM -
MaryDee: Seems to me it's the results of the Day 1 battle that committed Lee to stay
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM -
Jamieva: Right the success of day 1 made Lee stay
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM -
JerseyBart: I believe so. At least part of his overall plan. Buck stopping with Lee.
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM -
Jamieva: I also like that he shot down that Lee had agreed to fight on the defensive
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM -
JerseyBart: Yes
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM -
MaryDee: Taking victorious troops and sending them elsewhere would have been difficult. Bu†, as you say , it was Lee's decision to attack in the afternoon
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM -
Jamieva: That was the preference but only if they could move where they wanted
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:59 PM -
MaryDee: Returning to Lee
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM -
PeterT: And they couldn't move much ... the high ground was lost
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM -
PeterT: Yes. Lee.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:01 PM -
MaryDee: Back to Lee's health, I almost rolled on the floor at the "outhouse theory of history"!
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:02 PM -
JerseyBart: That was funny.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:02 PM -
MaryDee: Of course that was the season for fresh cherries, and I've encountered problems with too many of them myself
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM -
JerseyBart: Or just way too many sunflower seeds.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM -
JerseyBart: <---------
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM -
MaryDee: Too early in the season fothose!
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM -
MaryDee: for those
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:04 PM -
Jamieva: Lee had that issue more than once in the war
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:04 PM -
MaryDee: So did almost everyone.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:05 PM -
MaryDee: Dysentery was the #1 cause of death, if I recall correctly
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:05 PM -
JerseyBart: Those conditions weren't good for anybody.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM -
Jamieva: Yup
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM -
MaryDee: I recently reread Killer Angels, and I had forgotten how Sharra had Lee completely preoccupied with his heart symptoms. I don't want to believe that one.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM -
Jamieva: My gg grandfather quickly ended up in chimborazo with an intestinal issue
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM -
Jamieva: Soon after he was drafted
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:08 PM -
MaryDee: Not unusual; I presume he survived since y you're here!
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM -
MaryDee: Especially recruits from rural areas were highly susceptible to infections of all sorts
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM -
MaryDee: I was glad to see that Wert is not one of the Meade smashers, especially his description of how strong the Confederate line was
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM -
JerseyBart: Or just living amongst bugs, parasites and water you aren't accustomed to.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM -
MaryDee: at the Potomac
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM -
JerseyBart: Yes Mary. Unlike guelzo, he's not harsh on Meade.
Feb 20, 2017 at 10:12 PM -
Jamieva: Yes he survived the war