Confederate Veteran at the (Inner) Angle

I created a thread in the battlefield preservation forum about the Gettysburg cannon shop where all the preservation of metal objects is done. Didn't want to sidetrack this one but there was a question about if the guns had been moved (and all of them have at least once since 1999). I thought it pretty interesting. So, if you're interested in that sort of thing go have a look.
Our family has adopted several artillery positions and all of ours have been redone over the last 10 years.
 
Well I'll be... I never noticed the walls...I was spoke fixated LOL. :laugh: I imagine more than a few of the rocks were "appropriated" by souvenir hunters over the years.
Regarding the comments related to the difference in the stone wall-you might be interested in this 1882 Tipton photograph that shows this same section of the stone wall seen in my post. As you can see the wall was similar to how it appears in the old pic in my post only 19 years after the battle. I believe that this is probably close to how it appeared during the battle. The fella standing at the wall with the rifle is approximately where the veteran is sitting in my post.
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(From a previous related post)

Here's what some of the participants had to say about that wall:

- "fallen stone wall" (Lt. John T. Dent, 1st Delaware, Official Report)

- "low stone wall" (William T. Seville, History of the First Regiment Delaware Volunteers)

- "low stone wall" (Maj. Theodore G. Ellis, 14th Connecticut, Official Report)

- "loose stone wall" and "wall built on a ledge of rocks" (Charles D. Page, History of the Fourteenth Regiment Connecticut Vol. Infantry)

- "low stone wall" (Maj. Dunn Browne's Experiences in the Army. Dunn Browne was the pen name of Capt. Samuel Fiske, 14th Connecticut)

- "wall a simple affair ... but the men crouched down by it as their only friendly shelter" and "piling a little the thrown down stones of the wall" (Chaplain H. S. Stevens, Souvenir or Excursion to Battlefields, by the Society of the Fourteenth Connecticut Infantry)
 
(From a previous related post)

Here's what some of the participants had to say about that wall:

- "fallen stone wall" (Lt. John T. Dent, 1st Delaware, Official Report)

- "low stone wall" (William T. Seville, History of the First Regiment Delaware Volunteers)

- "low stone wall" (Maj. Theodore G. Ellis, 14th Connecticut, Official Report)

- "loose stone wall" and "wall built on a ledge of rocks" (Charles D. Page, History of the Fourteenth Regiment Connecticut Vol. Infantry)

- "low stone wall" (Maj. Dunn Browne's Experiences in the Army. Dunn Browne was the pen name of Capt. Samuel Fiske, 14th Connecticut)

- "wall a simple affair ... but the men crouched down by it as their only friendly shelter" and "piling a little the thrown down stones of the wall" (Chaplain H. S. Stevens, Souvenir or Excursion to Battlefields, by the Society of the Fourteenth Connecticut Infantry)
Yep...this goes with all I have heard about most of the stone walls in July 1863.....knee high or lower. Cool :smile:
 
Regarding the comments related to the difference in the stone wall-you might be interested in this 1882 Tipton photograph that shows this same section of the stone wall seen in my post. As you can see the wall was similar to how it appears in the old pic in my post only 19 years after the battle. I believe that this is probably close to how it appeared during the battle.

Interesting photo and one that raises several questions. Who owned the land in 1882 and how was it used? If privately owned in 1882 and used as it was in 1863 it's reasonable to assume the 1863 walls would've resembled the 1882 walls. Another question--how and why did the walls get lower between when the old photos in question were taken and now?
 
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On the right, a Confederate veteran sits on the right flank marker of the 71st Pa pondering what could have been in this early reunion photo. It appears (to me) that the carriage full of tourists has stopped to be included in the photo. On the left in Arnold's Battery monument and the Copse of Trees is seen in the right background. When I shot the modern view on the left a couple of years ago, I noticed that coincidentally, the spokes on the carriage wheels matched up exactly in both photos, on both guns. Does this mean the guns have not been moved for over a hundred years? I doubt it, just an interesting observation. :wink:
I really enjoy
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On the right, a Confederate veteran sits on the right flank marker of the 71st Pa pondering what could have been in this early reunion photo. It appears (to me) that the carriage full of tourists has stopped to be included in the photo. On the left in Arnold's Battery monument and the Copse of Trees is seen in the right background. When I shot the modern view on the left a couple of years ago, I noticed that coincidentally, the spokes on the carriage wheels matched up exactly in both photos, on both guns. Does this mean the guns have not been moved for over a hundred years? I doubt it, just an interesting observation. :wink:

I find these picture fascinating. I am new to CivilWarTalk though I am a CW buff.
 
Regarding the comments related to the difference in the stone wall-you might be interested in this 1882 Tipton photograph that shows this same section of the stone wall seen in my post. As you can see the wall was similar to how it appears in the old pic in my post only 19 years after the battle. I believe that this is probably close to how it appeared during the battle. The fella standing at the wall with the rifle is approximately where the veteran is sitting in my post.
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Agree that the "old" pic is probably the original height. This is not a stone "wall"...It's a stone fence.
 
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