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Union Casualties in Devil's Den?

Discussion in 'Battle of Gettysburg' started by Gettysburg Greg, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Gettysburg Greg

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    How many dead soldiers can you count in this P. S. Weaver photograph? Most of us know the answer is zero. Weaver used musicians and hospital attendants from Camp Letterman to pose in Devil's Den as battle casualties four months after the battle in November of 1863. He recorded an entire series of photos in this area using these same soldiers in all of the images. His ruse was so successful that even today you can find these photographs on the internet captioned as actual dead soldiers. The barren trees on Little Round Top seen in the background should have been an important clue in debunking the claim when compared to my modern view taken during the summer.
     
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    YES, I HAVE seen these pictures around @Gettysburg Greg , but I thought that the trees were defoliated due to damage from the battle. I have actually engaged in conversation about the state of the trees.
     
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    agent orange?

    *runs*
     
  5. JohnW.

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    Nope....November in south central Pennsylvania.
     
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    I have seen several of the photos in the series. I thought they looked staged and unnatural. But in the 1860's, photographic death studies were brand spankin new. The folks back then I'm sure thought that they were looking at the Grim Reaper's harvest.
     
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    Is the Civil War the beginning of War Correspondence/Photography, and in that vein.......fake news??!! :smile:
     
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    No, Fake War News goes back before the Greeks and Romans. Maybe a few minutes after the invention of writing. Before that sometime after the invention of speech.
     
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    Maybe....the National Enquirer or Weekly World News of 1863???
     
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    try rameses II - battle of kadesh :bounce:
     
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    Declare victory and go home.
     
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    draw - declare victory - go home and have your deeds carved in all over egypt
     
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    What amazes me is the difference in the rock formation over just 150 years. It appears that the crack on the right hand side has closed up over the years.
     
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    I got eight, because I'm pretty sure they're all dead by now.... Just sayin'.... :wink:
     
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    I think what's happened is that some of the rock above and below the crack has fallen off (or been removed in some way) so that you're now seeing what was the rear of the recess (which is narrower than the exposed opening was). If you really study both photos there are several spots where stone is now missing. Who knows ... weathering, souvenir hunters.
     
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    could also be the rock was stabilized with some concrete
     
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