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That's what I thought also.Do you mean the USA engraving?
That's what I thought also.Do you mean the USA engraving?
Do you mean the USA engraving?
He was very loyal to the Union and the decision to resigned was a difficult one for him. I wouldn't throw a sword that I loved away just because of an engraving.Exactly. It was his old US. Army sword.
exactlyHe was very loyal to the Union and the decision to resigned was a difficult one for him. I wouldn't throw a sword that I loved away just because of an engraving.
Very interesting thread! In my opinion Ricard Brooke Garnett is a character who is much too overlooked between all these larger than life characters acting in the Civil War. In the German edition of McPherson's "Battle Cry for Freedom" he is not even listed in the index of names. Therefore it is about time to commemorate him and I'm glad that this thread offers the opportunity to favour him.
As Foote in his "Civil War : a narrative", vol. 2 , p. 533 describes Garnett as strikingly handsome, therefore I think we should add a face to his name:
From: http://schwartz.eng.auburn.edu/ACW/lrtmap.docs/garnett.gif
When I read first about Pickett's Charge (or the Pickett/Pettigrew assault, as it should be named properly), I simply thought it bad luck for Garnett that he had been injured so that he had to ride a horse to lead his men to battle which made him an easy target. Meanwhile I think there was much more to it. It might have been "suicide by enemy" as @M E Wolf stated, but I think it was even more archaic. In my opinion he was seeking nothing less than an ordeal by battle. As @War Horse in his introduction already stated, Garnett was from an old military family. Being accused of disobedience and cowardice was something he simply could not bear, not in his own eyes and not in the eyes of his family. A court martial would probably have cleared his name (Foote in vol. 2 says he even had demanded a court martial), but he was never formally tried so he was denied the chance to clear his name in court. And to oppose a dead hero (Jackson) surely is nothing to be desired in public. So he might have seen his only chance to clear his name in an act of extreme bravery. He knew exactly what awaited him. Mcpherson in his work "Hallowed Ground" on p. 155 quotes him remarking to Armistead about the planned assault:"This is a desperate thing to attempt". So he might have thought that taking part in in, on a horse, would either clear his name for all times from every suspect of cowardice or, if things would go bad, the memory of his courage would remain. Welsh in his "Medical history of ´Confederate Generals" states that he was actually unfit for for duty, suffering from fever and chills, but donned an immaculate new uniform for the assault. If he was to die, he might thought that he wanted to be prepared in every aspect.
@Northern Light, as much as I agree with you as far as the result is concerned - in my mind, too he should not have felt to be forced to bring this ultimate sacrifice of his life, nevertheless I think it is too much modern and to much female thinking. 150 years ago being a male with a strong military background, he must have felt he had no other choice.
Heartbreaking.
As for Jackson, I always have difficulties to symathize with him. He claimed to be a Christian in every aspect, but in his daily life I think he did not always follow Christian principles. Or those of the Old Testament, glorifiying sacrifices.
I think because Garnett lead Jackson's famous "Stonewall Brigade". The Stonewall Brigade in Jackson's eyes should never be connected with retreat. He simply could not/did not want to see that they had no chance. Maybe he even thought it better to vanish in glory than to admit defeat. I will read as many books as there are about Jackson, I will never be able to understand him, I think.
Now that's interesting! It is so beautifully engraved!Here is a detail of a picture of the Richard Garnett's sword, the same he carried in Gettysburg:
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Notice anything interesting?
Also worth mentioning, that his cousin, Robert S. Garnett was the first CS General to die in the war (Battle of Corrick's Fort, 7/13/61)
I agree he was not the only one to ride. I do think he was on a personal mission to regain his reputation and honor. I know it's said he could not sit this one out. Why couldn't he? He had a high fever and couldn't walk. A.P Hill was on sick leave if I remember correctly.While I can't entirely discount the honor motive, from a practical perspective, Garnett had to ride. He was barely able to walk due to an injury and, if he was going to lead the attack, he had to ride.
And he was hardly the only one. Kemper rode as did both of their staffs. Of course, nearly everyone who rode was hit but, really, the casualty rates for officers during the attack was high regardless of mode of transportation.
I think a lot of the honor discussion is an after the fact perspective that, while interesting, is complete speculation.
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I wonder if there was another reason as well. Lee thought, hoped, prayed that this charge would break the Yankee centre and become a decisive victory that would end the war. Would you have want to be left out of that event because you were sick? I doubt it! I think there was more than one reason for Garnett to ride that day. Just my opinion.I agree he was not the only one to ride. I do think he was on a personal mission to regain his reputation and honor. I know it's said he could not sit this one out. Why couldn't he? He had a high fever and couldn't walk. A.P Hill was on sick leave if I remember correctly.
Very true! Just like the movie "Perhaps today will be The Last Day"I wonder if there was another reason as well. Lee thought, hoped, prayed that this charge would break the Yankee centre and become a decisive victory that would end the war. Would you have want to be left out of that event because you were sick? I doubt it! I think there was more than one reason for Garnett to ride that day. Just my opinion.
I agree he was not the only one to ride. I do think he was on a personal mission to regain his reputation and honor. I know it's said he could not sit this one out. Why couldn't he? He had a high fever and couldn't walk. A.P Hill was on sick leave if I remember correctly.
I agree he was not the only one to ride. I do think he was on a personal mission to regain his reputation and honor. I know it's said he could not sit this one out. Why couldn't he? He had a high fever and couldn't walk. A.P Hill was on sick leave if I remember correctly.
Honestly, I doubt that. Pickett's charge was no war game, it was grim reality and nothing you do not want to miss for the fun of it. Given his background, I'm convinced he saw it as s chance. his only chance maybe, to restore his honour.The problem with that supposition is that there is no evidence of that as a motivation.
As I said, I can't entirely discount it but the mundane is just as likely. Something along the lines of "I can't walk so I'll have to ride" and "The boys need to see me today".
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Honestly, I doubt that. Pickett's charge was no war game, it was grim reality and nothing you do not want to miss for the fun of it. Given his background, I'm convinced he saw it as s chance. his only chance maybe, to restore his honour.
As for the photo, I'm sorry. Lots of websites show this man as Richard Garnett, I did not know him personally, so I believed them.
Even Wikipedia has the wrong picture. Hard to know, unless you have period documented images. Ergo:
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Wow I am quickly learning this picture thing is dangerous stuff. Lol
Robert Selden Garnett pictured in the above. There is this photo, labelled as Franklin Gardner, who people think that it could be of Richard Brooke Garnett:
Because Franklin Gardner looks like this:
Potential misspelling (or even misidentification) of Garnett to Gardner is not out of question, but it could be his cousin also...
Honestly, I doubt that. Pickett's charge was no war game, it was grim reality and nothing you do not want to miss for the fun of it. Given his background, I'm convinced he saw it as s chance. his only chance maybe, to restore his honour.
As for the photo, I'm sorry. Lots of websites show this man as Richard Garnett, I did not know him personally, so I believed them.
I believe he insisted on it! Despite his fever he made a valiant charge charge. Eyewitness accounts state he was waiving his hat cheering his men on only a few feet from the stone wall. One account states his horse was shoot from under him. When the animal fell it fell on Garnett's body which he freed from under the animal. He recognied the General and removed his pocket watch and turned it in to the proper authorities after the battle. Garnett would have it no other way! I believe he intended to set the record straight that afternoon in life or in death. I do also believe that he thought "maybe just maybe this would be the last day"I do know that the scene of Garnett's horse coming back riderless during the charge is one of the most haunting moments in the Gettysburg movie...at least for me.
I can understand HIM wanting to be there but why did his superiors allow him to participate if he was that bad off? From the descriptions it sounds like he could barely hold himself together. They honestly thought that despite his various conditions he was still deemed fit to command?