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Forty Acres and a Mule. Special Field Orders No.15, word for word, section 1.

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  1. Bonny Blue Flag

    Bonny Blue Flag 2nd Lieutenant

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    This order has six sections, some of them lengthy. Therefore, each section will be a seperate thread.

    In the field, Savannah, Georgia, January 16, 1865

    Special Field Orders, No. 15

    1. The islands from Charleston, south, the abandonded rice fields along the rivers for thirty miles back from the sea, and the country bordering the St. Johns River, Florida, are reserved and set apart for the settlement of the negros now made free by the acts of war and the proclamation of the President of the United States.

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    Reconstruction / The Second Civil War

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    Section 2 will follow as a new thread.

    --BBF
     

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  3. ole

    ole Brev. Brig. Gen'l Retired Moderator

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    Interesting start, BBF. But this is a thread; added information will be in additonal posts in this thread.

    Will look forward to the rest of it, but will observe that Sherman had no authority to issue that order.

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  4. Glorybound

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    Good thread, Bonnie. I didn't know that Sherman was the originator of the '40 acres and a mule'. He seems to start off with it while he was in Savannah. I also did not know that he did this without authorization from Lincoln. Is that the case?


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    :laugh1:I'm impressed! Had no idea Spike Lee was a member here.:laugh2:
     
  6. Bonny Blue Flag

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    BR, you are too much!

    Congress did not like the idea of "forty acres and a mule", and President Johnson vetoed it.

    I am having difficulty on the web finding if Lincoln approved of it or not.

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    "Forty acres and a mule" was, in my peculiar understanding, attributable to the Freedman's Bureau. A good idea whose time hadn't come.

    One man couldn't farm more than 40 acres and he did need a mule to help him with it.

    Ever wonder why farmers tended to chuff out kids? Some of them might be sons to help with it. With four or five strapping sons, the farmer could add acres and have some sons or sons-in-law who would take care of him when he and gramma got too fragile to do it themselves. Social security when there were no retirement homes. And he could leave something for his kids to build on.

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    johan_steele Lt. Colonel Retired Moderator

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    Sherman did indeed start the idea, there is question if Lincoln ever got wind of it prior to his death. Frankly, it was a good idea and might have solved some of the post war issues. Certainly couldn't have made the former CS hate the US any less.
     
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    Because 30% of them on average were going to die off? Well, and also what you said.

    Sherman had a habit of exceeding his authority. See also the surrender of Johnston's army. Although I think you can credit Breckinridge for that one.
     
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    Last night I typed up Section 2 of Sherman's Order No. 15 as a second thread -- it is lengthy, pressed "preview" and lost the whole thing...instead a screen came up saying I needed to log in.

    Has anyone else have this happen?

    Will try again tonight.

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