This thread set up for discussion of the four countries named and...well, Mark, Glorybound, anyone else, where do you want to go with this? I'd personally like to see something on the Irish issue. The Potato Famine (mishandling of, that is) aside, I can't think of anything the English did to the Irish to merit such vehemate hatred. I mean, sure they conquered Ireland and took over, but that happens. England itself was seven plus major kingdoms at one point or another before being united under the royal line of Wessex and then taken over by the Normans. As someone who is mostly of Anglo-Saxon/English extraction, though with a healthy streak of Irish blood, I don't really feel any emotional ties to the Emerald Isle. But anyway, this is for whatever we want to make the topic. It just seems that Irish-English relations would be one that would have some good food for thought in it - you don't get vehemate hatred without doing something (or failing to do something, which in its own way is doing something...okay, rambling.) to provoke it - even if that something was meant with the very best intentions.