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GRAPHIC Antietam fence line

Discussion in 'Civil War Photography' started by wilber6150, Jan 31, 2012.

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  1. wilber6150 Brig. General, Mod

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    Hi list, Im at a crossroads with this image, so Im going to ask your opinion.. Is it worth while to zoom in and try to gain some knowledge of clothing and equipment or would it be too graphic and disrespectful to our honored dead...Let me know what you think and whatever the concenscious is after a couple of days I will go with..

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    wilber6150, Jan 31, 2012
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  3. kel1985 Sergeant

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    Tough call, but I don't think in this atmosphere it would be disrespectful so long as it is in a scholarly pursuit.
    kel1985, Jan 31, 2012
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  4. RNMCSA Corporal

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    I for one would like to see some close ups of their clothing and equipment. I think in our pursuit to understand them and learn from them is in and of itself a form of respect. There are many reasons people on this forum study these photos and as long as the study of them remains respectfull (no crude jokes) then IMHO it is ok.
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  5. Lazy Bayou First Sergeant

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    I don't think it would do any harm just keep it as a study and as RNMCSA said, keep it respectful. I think you've done an excellent job with all the others you've posted and have no reason to believe you wouldn't do the same with this one.
    Lazy Bayou, Jan 31, 2012
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  6. prroh 1st Lieutenant

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    I see little difference from the zoomed pix of the Petersburg dead. There were no unseemly posts then and see no reason why there should be now, These guys were mostly (all?) of Hood's Texans so that should be kept in mind when studying uniforms.
    prroh, Jan 31, 2012
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  7. rpkennedy First Sergeant

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    I thought that this was a photo of some of Starke's Louisianans?

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  8. prroh 1st Lieutenant

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    I thought these fellows were part of hood's counter-attack that was stopped by canister fire. At one gun along the fence line, Doubleday assisted the gun crews in aiming there pieces.
    prroh, Jan 31, 2012
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  9. M E Wolf Brig. General, Mod

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    Wilber,

    I'd say go ahead and crop as to study the uniforms. The respect is there and always has been by those who respect soldiers of any/all Armies of the USA...even during the Civil War be it Union or Confederate.

    To do justice in telling of their deeds 150 years ago, it rests on us with the better abilities now with all the digital 'do dads' to do our (in a general sense) best to replicate their uniforms as to best attempt replicate their paths taken in the American Civil War.

    True, might have a 'jerk' that has to idiotic in their judgment and or behavior but, for the majority to whom have joined you in the study through photographs have a big debt to pay as to further study what was, so that people can defend their impersonations with as much photographic proof as possible.

    Just my opinions.

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  10. Historyprof Private

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    I believe that these are on the west side if the Hagerstown Pike, Hood's Texans would have been on the east side. Gibbons aimed a Napoleon that was in the road. It looks to me that there are two fences and the Hagerstown Pike is between them. The tracks to left would be a farm lane.
    Historyprof, Jan 31, 2012
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  11. wilber6150 Brig. General, Mod

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    The main difference with the Petersburg dead,( if Im thinking of the same imge you are, theres been alot lol) was that we were studying the picture in order to answer a mystery and that there other things in the picture besides the body to study, as opposed to this image where it would be almost be all shots of the dead...
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  12. wilber6150 Brig. General, Mod

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    If you look at the bottom right of the image, it does look like the fence caught a blast of something big...
    wilber6150, Jan 31, 2012
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  13. rpkennedy First Sergeant

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    I was thinking that they were Starke's men based on where they were in relation to the road, as Historyprof pointed out. I have this photo in a couple books and I'll have to see what they say, if anything.

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    rpkennedy, Jan 31, 2012
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  14. jmb57 Private

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    It also looks like there is damage to the fence between the twelfth and thirteenth fence posts counting from the right side of the picture.
    jmb57, Jan 31, 2012
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  15. 20thncarolina Private

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    IMHO this would be just the place for a respectful examination of this image.
    20thncarolina, Jan 31, 2012
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  16. Pvt_McIntire Private

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    This is indeed the West side of Hagerstown Pike and the dead are Starke's Louisiana boys. William Frassinato's book does a great job of pinpointing exactly where this was taken.
    Pvt_McIntire, Feb 1, 2012
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  17. prroh 1st Lieutenant

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    Great , we got that settled . Were Hood's boys on the east side of the Hagerstown Pike?
    prroh, Feb 1, 2012
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  18. Savez Sergeant Major

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    I think finding out what they wore, exactly who they were is honoring them. I see nothing wrong with it.
    Savez, Feb 1, 2012
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  19. Pvt_McIntire Private

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    Oh yes, sorry! Hood's men were on the east side of the Pike. In fact, there is a monument to the Texans there now--one of the few Confederate monuments on the battlefield.
    Pvt_McIntire, Feb 1, 2012
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  20. Historyprof Private

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    As far as the details of uniforms and equipment goes, I doubt that there would have been much difference between a Texan and a Louisianan by the time of the Maryland Campaign. Just my opinion.

    Tom
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  21. Nathanb1 Brig. General, Mod

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    Well, just from the conversation so far, I'd say go for it. We're obviously eager to learn more, and I've really never seen any disrespect from anyone. We all want to know as much as we can about the war, and this is one of the best places to learn!
    Nathanb1, Feb 1, 2012
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