Waterloo50
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Too many 'Smart' Indians.Too many Indians
Too many 'Smart' Indians.Too many Indians
One can argue back and forwards for ages but I have always said what the problem really was- Too many Indians!
Tongue in cheek. You cannot let a little thing like basic human rights cloud your thinking about Manifest Destiny. We won't even get into Germany and it's history of genocide now will we?your post is disgusting - how about
too many poles*, armenians or just chose a genocide of your liking and be done with it
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* the idea was to push them behind the ural with all the other slaves, enslave or simply kill them
Tongue in cheek. You cannot let a little thing like basic human rights cloud your thinking about Manifest Destiny. We won't even get into Germany and it's history of genocide now will we?
Just following orders..... wasn't that still a war crime to hang enemy soldiers for being enemy soldiers? ..... Yes, Mosby following orders, hung five in retaliation, but that was apparently seen as the only way to stop the hangings, and only after asking and receiving orders to do so.Grant gave the order but Mosby held Custer accountable for the seven executions, to be fair, Custer was taking Grant's orders to the extreme. Mosby called Custer 'Attila the Hun'.
Since one of Mosby's men that was hung was a relative of mine, (William Thomas Overby), I have done quite a thorough examination of the events. I am not a Custer fan to say the least. However, I am unsure if Custer was even responsible. There are conflicting report that he wasn't even near the area.Just following orders..... wasn't that still a war crime to hang enemy soldiers for being enemy soldiers? ..... Yes, Mosby following orders, hung five in retaliation, but that was apparently seen as the only way to stop the hangings, and only after asking and receiving orders to do so.
that part of our history is exactly what makes me thin skinned when i read 'stuff' like that. btw, who do you think wanted to push the slaves past the ural?
As for why he lost...Crazy Horse was a better general than he was!
They did & do in the Army I was a member of. Post them on a course, give them bad confidential reports, leave them behind. I do take your point, but ultimately a Commander commands & takes responsibility for both officers & men.
Don't agree with the premise that 'Native Americans were smarter, I would however concede that they had an age old understanding of their environment which the Europeans didn't have to the same degree. I could always argue the point that it takes a certain degree of intelligence to invent and utilise technology. Every other nation on the planet had the same opportunities to create and invent, some were just better at figuring it out.It was a conquest. The native Americans may have been more intelligent than the Europeans but they were, technologically, thousands of years behind. The Indians continued to try and bargain with the Unites States Government but they really didn't have anything to bargain with. We wanted their land and we took it. It was inevitable. Right or wrong.
I heard a socio-anthropologist claim the Native Americans may have been smarter because their day to day life required them to solve complex problems just to survive where as Europeans were using technology so that their day to day problems were less likely to be "Life or Death" issues. It sounded good but I'm no socio-anthropologist.
Perhaps it was western reliance on technology that undid the 7th. The Zulu's at Isandlwhana taught us Brits a very severe lesson with assegais