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Old 10-06-2007, 06:12 PM
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Trivia Game # 48 - Week 4

Here are the questions for Week 4 of Game # 48

16. In General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia during the Gettysburg Campaign, this general not only commanded the largest infantry division but was also the only non-West Pointer in divisional or higher command. He is not without military qualifications. Who is he and where did he receive his training? (Submitted by ewc)

17. With the Cubs (for the moment) in the playoffs, it’s time for another baseball question. (It was only 43 years after Appomattox that the Cubs last won a World Series in 1908, it’s been 99 years since.)

On April 21, 1861, the 71st Regiment New York State Militia left New York to serve in the defense of Washington D.C. They arrived on April 27th. While barracked at the Navy Yard, they arranged for a baseball game with the recently formed local club, the Washington Nationals. The New Yorkers defeated the Nationals by a score of 41 to 13. The following year, the 71st was again mustered in and again called to the defense of Washington. In a rematch with the Nationals, the 71st team lost by a score of 28 to 13. What was the explanation for this change of fortune?






18. In 1861, when Ulysses Grant commanded the District of Cairo, his superior was John C. Fremont, commander of the Department of the Missouri. To ensure secrecy, correspondence between Fremont at his headquarters in St. Louis, MO and Grant at Cairo, IL, was frequently in what non-English language? Also, who translated these messages for Grant?

19. A veteran of Walker’s Nicaragua adventure, he fought against Grant’s forces at Belmont and Shiloh. At Missionary Ridge he lost a leg. His last battle was on an Easter Sunday, where he on crutches, cobbled together a defense made up of convalescents, young boys, and old men, and outnumbered more than 20 to 1, held off Union forces for a day till they ran out of ammunition.
What was his name, when did the battle occur, and what distinction is held by both the general
and the fort which he defended?

20. Shortly after the Battle of Antietam, President Lincoln dismissed from service a high ranking officer with close connections to Gen. Halleck and Gen. McClellan. Who was the officer dismissed, and why was he dismissed?

Answers are due by 6pm (eastern) on Saturday, October 12. Good fishing, and good luck!
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:41 PM
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16. Robert Rodes, who graduated from VMI

17. A number of the 71st’s best ballplayers were killed at the first Battle of Bull Run (Manassas), which took place in between the first and second games.

18. The messages were sent in Hungarian. The translator was Raphael Guido.

19. The general’s name was Robert Tyler. The battle occurred April 16, 1865. Tyler was the last Confederate general to die in the Civil War and the fort was the last to fall in the Civil War.

20. The cashiered officer was Maj. John J. Key, who had responded to a question asking why the Union army had not pursued and crushed Lee’s forces immediately after the battle by saying “that is not the game,” and explaining that, in his view, the general objective should be to let the war drag on until both sides got tired of fighting and would reach a compromise that would preserve both the Union and slavery. Lincoln dismissed Key on the grounds that Key had expressed “disloyal sentiments.”
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16. Robert E. Rodes, Virginia Military Institute

17. the 71st had lost the best athletes at the battle of First Bull Run

18. Hungarian, Raphael Guido

19. Robert C. Tyler, April 16, 1865. He was the last Confederate General to die in the CW and Fort Tyler the last Fort to fall in the war.

20. Major John J. Key. When asked by Major Levi Turner after the battle why McClellan did not use his advantage, he allegedly replied "that is not the game. The object is that neither army shall get much advantage of the other, that both shall be kept in the field till they are exhausted, when we will make a compromise and save slavery."
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16.MAJOR GENERAL ROBERT EMMETT RODES
VMI Virginia Military Institute
17.Unfortunately, the victory came in part because some of the 71st's best athletes had been killed at Bull Run only weeks after their first game.

18.Hungarian ,Raphael Guido

19.Robert Charles Tyler April 16, 1865 earthwork fort named in his honor So they had the same name

20.Maj. John Key — aide-de-camp to general-in-chief Henry Halleck and brother of McClellan’s aide, Col. Thomas Key — had, in response to a query from a brother officer as to “why…the rebel army [was not] bagged immediately after the battle near Sharpsburg [Antietam],” replied “that is not the game. The object is that neither army shall get much advantage of the other; that both shall be kept in the field till they are exhausted, when we will make a compromise and save slavery.”

Lincoln dismissed Key from the service, writing that “it is wholly inadmissible for any gentleman holding a military commission from the United States to utter such sentiments as Major Key is within proved to have done.” He remarked to John Hay “that if there was a ‘game’ ever among Union men, to have our army not take an advantage of the enemy when it could, it was his object to break up that game.” Shortly thereafter, Lincoln relieved McClellan himself after another long bout of inactivity following Antietam.
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16. Robert Rodes; he received his training at the V.M.I

17.The victory for the Nationals came because most of the 71st's best athletes were killed at Manasas only a few weeks after the first game.

18. The language was Hungarian; Grant's translator was Gustav Waagner INCORRECT

19.Brig. Gen. Robert Charles Tyler; April 15th 1865 and the Fort is named after him.

20. Gen. Ambrose Burnside; his poor performance at Fredericksburg INCORRECT
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16. Maj. Gen. R. E. RODES. , VMI 1848

17. in part because some of the 71st's best athletes had been killed at Bull Run only weeks after their first game


18. Hungarian, ALEXANDER ASBOTH INCORRECT


19. Robert Charles Tyler, Fort Tyler, April 14, 1865, the war was all but over when the battle happened INCORRECT

20. Major John Key for telling another officer that McClellan failed to destroy Lee’s Army because “That is not the game. The object is that neither army shall get much advantage of the other’ that both shall be kept in the field till they are exhausted, when we make a compromise and save slavery”
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16. Robert Emmett Rodes, VMI
17. “Some of the 71st’s best athletes had been killed at Bull Run only a few weeks after their first game”

18. Hungarian; Gustav Waagner INCORRECT
19. Robert Charles Tyler; April 16, 1865; the battle at Fort Tyler was the last on the east side of the Mississippi, and General Tyler was the last Confederate general killed in battle.
20. Major John J. Key was dismissed because he expressed his opinion that “it was not the Union objective…to crush the Confederate army. Instead, Key implied, the goal was simply to drag the war out until both sides gave up and the Union could be restored with slavery intact”
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Reporting from the Laundry Room ... more on that below, here are the answers for Game #48 - Week 4:

16. Robert E. Rodes, Virginia Military Institute

17. Some of the 71st's best player had been killed at Bull Run some few weeks after the first game.

18. Hungarian, Raphael Guido Rombauer (Seems some of you are on a first/second name basis with Mr. Rombauer, well I won't hold that against you.)

19. Robert C. Tyler, April 16, 1865, Fort Tyler was the last Confederate fort captured by the Union during the war (as well as the last battle east of the Mississippi, by some accounts, tho Columbus Ga. also claims that distiction, but they are only miles apart, and perhaps are considedered as parts of the same big battle...? Whatever they were the same day.), Gen. Tyler was the last Confederate general killed in action. (The fact that the general and the fort had the same name, quite obviously, is not much of a distinction, but is true and as I used the word "both" where I should have used "each", I must reluctantly accept it.)

20. Major John J. Key, an officer on the staff of Gen. Henry Halleck, and whose brother was an aide to gen. McClellan had suggested that the opposing amies were not out to destroy each other, but were engaged in a "game" in which "neither army shall get much advantage of the other, that both shall be kept in the field till they are exhausted, when we will make a compromise and save slavery." Understandably, Lincoln did not like these sentements coming from an officer in the army and so felt he needed to make an example of Key by dismissing him from service.

(No sources this week) ...

because my computer crashed last Monday night and could not be revived. Sort of the cyber-space equivalent of having your horse shot out from under you?

So Week #5 will be postponed till I get a new horse and teach it how to talk to my ISP provider, etc. (Can't properly research the questions.)

Well, the lap-top was living on borrowed time anyway since I spilled a glass of merlot on the keyboard a year ago. Has had various odd problems of all sorts ever since. Anyway it should be nice to start anew with a PC that will cost less than the one from 4 years ago, but with much more power, speed, and features.

I'll keep you informed, shouldn't be much more than another week, if that long. Stuff happens.


Here are the scores at the end of Game #48 - Week 4:

FIRST DIVISION

Susan Sweet - 19
Rad2duhbone53 - 15
Sarladaise - 13
ewc - 10

SECOND DIVISION

Texaswildcat - 16
Hoosier - 15
Sockknitter - 14
Blockaderunner - 9

Still too close to call in both divisions.

Hope to get back up to speed soon.
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