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Old 06-03-2006, 09:21 PM
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I PM'ed Cindy Scopes a few months ago as I also missed her input. She said something about not wanting to do public postings anymore ... ?

I don't know German so am not familiar with the 'D' words and I doubt the secessionists knew either when then used their derisive calls.

(Does this mean any possible answer to a trivia question must pass the censors to be counted as correct?)!!!

Anyway, I'll admit that I found multiple derisive terms by with the pro-Southerners refereed to the German unionist volunteers, of which there were not one, but several different regiments.

While they (the pro-Southerers) may have referred to one specific regiment as 'Hessians', I don't know, but the question did not specify any partiular unit; from my research I found that in general these units were referred to by several derogatory names, among them '**** Dutch' or '****ed Dutch' or 'Hessians' or 'Dutch' or others.

I found the 'D... Dutch' more frequently than any other term.

Here are some links, search on 'dutch' or one of those 'd..n' words:


http://www.exulanten.com/LLS.html


http://www.skyways.org/orgs/fordco/keel.html


http://www.stlreb.com/stlreb9.html


http://www.17thmissouri.com/story.html


http://www.civilwarstlouis.com/History/HomeGuard.htm


http://www.civilwarstlouis.com/bookstorebiographies.htm


http://www.civilwarstlouis.com/History/Sherman.htm


It would be interesting to know if it could be proved that these German volunteer units were only reffered to as 'Hessians' and never as 'D.. Dutch.

Oh well.
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:17 AM
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SamGrant has more than adequately supported his response.

Texaswildcat sent me a PM to inform me that, in the book "The Civil War, Early Battles in the West," it is stated on page 15 that "the Home Guards were almost all German immigrants, known as "die Schwartze Garde" to their friends and as "****ed Dutchmen" to their enemies."

They will both get credit for their answers and are now tied for the lead in the First and Second Divisions, respectively, with 12 points apiece.

Incidentally, I have no rule requiring that an answer must be acceptable to the automatic censor, since it's pretty tough to figure out what the censor will find objectionable. If the censor ***'s out your answer, I'll just try my best to figure out what you meant.

I've seen automatic censors that were even more sensitive than the one here at CWT. There was a time when the automatic censor on Major League Baseball's message boards automatically ***'d out any word beginning with the letters "sh" followed by the letter "t," regardless of what letter or letters appeared in between. Made it pretty difficult to talk about the guy playing the position between second and third.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:39 PM
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so if the shortstop ruined the shutout with a shot to short center, shattering the team record for the Shattuckville (MA) Shetlands....?


Well guess we would be s*** out of luck!
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