Help find a pic of real C.S.mounted trousers

[Mark Wadsworth]

Does anyone know where I can find picture of Orginial Confederate mounted trouser? All I can find that are the real thing are U.S. I have found plenty of repo CS mounted trousers but I need to look at a real pair so I can make my own notes.

[johan_steele]

I thought Echoes of Glory had a pic of some, my copy is oaned out at the moment so I might well be misremembering.

[Mark Wadsworth]

I did not see any cav trousers in the gray E.O.G. I need to see close up pics of the saddled seat to see how they were sewn.

I hope to find a pair that was machine sewn back then.

[ole]

I'll guess that Confederate mounted trousers were exactly the same as Federat mounted trousers with the difference only in colors and possibly the material. The pattern/design did not differ.

Just an observation.

Ole

[Mark Wadsworth]

The patterns are close but not the same.

[M E Wolf]

Dear Mark Wadsworth;

Sir, I don't have the best solution however; on the Library of Congress' web site:

Forests Cavalry, Confederate reunion, May 1917
( 1917 May ) ( Photograph, Print, Drawing )
Source: Prints and Photographs Online Catalog

[Portrait of Pvt. Walter Miles Parker, 1st Florida Cavalry, C.S.A.]
( [between 1860 and 1865, re-photographed 1961] ) ( Photograph, Print, Drawing )

Source: Prints and Photographs Online Catalog
[Portrait of Col. John S. Mosby, 43rd Battalion, Virginia Cavalry, C.S.A., and friend]

Israel and Company (Baltimore), photographer ( [between 1860 and 1865, re-photographed 1961] ) ( Photograph, Print, Drawing )
Source: Prints and Photographs Online Catalog

[Pvt. C.C. Wenner, Co. A., 35th Virginia Cavalry, C.S.A., three-quarter length portrait, facing front]
( [photographed between 1861 and 1865, re-photographed 1961] ) ( Photograph, Print, Drawing )
Source: Prints and Photographs Online Catalog

(All photographs)

Search phrase "Confederate Cavalry"

M. E. Wolf

[prroh]

Does anyone know where I can find picture of Orginial Confederate mounted trouser? All I can find that are the real thing are U.S. I have found plenty of repo CS mounted trousers but I need to look at a real pair so I can make my own notes.

Try this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cu...shington01.jpg

Both trousers look alike except for the color. I thought that cavalry trousers had leather outside linings in the seat and inside of the legs. Doesn't appear to be so. Custer and Washington were both staff officers at the time and maybe didn't wear lined trousers, despite lots of riding on courier duty.

[K Hale]

Well, here are Stuart's pants, if that helps. Sorry I don't have a picture showing more of the pants themselves. There is no leather lining.

[ole]

Flash thought. Stuart was not your ordinary grunt who had to worry about wearing out his trousers in the saddle. The seat getting thin was of no concern.

I'll confess that I'd never thought of riding pants. I'm familiar with horses and riding, but I never thought about riding 10 hours daily every day. How did the cowboys manage? Did they wear reinforced jeans? And did they turn up the cuffs?

I need to return to my nap. Sorry about all that.

Ole

[K Hale]

Well, Stuart was in the saddle all the time, but when his pants started wearing out, he just wrote to his wife to send him new ones. It's not like he would have been totally bereft. The average private may have been a different story.

As for cowboys, chaps have a part that wraps around the inside of the upper leg, so that part of your pants would be protected, but they never cover the seat.

[Remember1864]

This discussion merits an "expert" opinion. As I am not an "expert" on CW trousers, let me put forth the name of someone who is; Chris Sullivan. Chris runs Stony Brook Clothiers in Oswego, NY. (315.343.1557) He produces "period-correct" trousers and would most certainly be able to answer these questions. Another reference would be the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond, VA.

John Marler
Franklin, TN

[prroh]

Try this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cu...shington01.jpg

Both trousers look alike except for the color. I thought that cavalry trousers had leather outside linings in the seat and inside of the legs. Doesn't appear to be so. Custer and Washington were both staff officers at the time and maybe didn't wear lined trousers, despite lots of riding on courier duty.

I looked in Don Troiani's book Civil War and found a image of the 1st NC Cavalry. The trousers appear to much like those in the site above . No inside lining visible. Troiani is noted for the accuracy of the tiniest details in his paintings.

[Mark Wadsworth]

I need close up photos over the extra layer on the inside of a paor of orginial Confederate trousers. I have to be able to see the stitches. ALso I need to know if the edges were left raw of folded under.
The Troiani print of the 1st NC Cav does not do any good. Granted I have many of his prints. But I can use his work to use as a basis for one of my garments.