Hello,
I was invited here by my friend, Nico_Davout- and I'm coming to reinforce him
My name is Barbara. I live in northern Poland and study History (hope to get the M.A. degree this year).
My sympathies are with the Confederacy, yet I try to keep impartiality in my writing
Greetings to all!
We must all prepare for a second front! Nico has received reinforcements!
Welcome to our board and I sincerely hope you will enjoy your time here. Please pick a topic and prepare to defend you views.
Long Live Poland!
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
I am curious. Why are your sympathies with the Confederacy?
__________________ "There must be more historians of the Civil War than there were generals figthing in it... Of the two groups, the historians are the more belligerent." David Donald, Lincoln Reconsidered (1961)
Hi, Bobbie. Nico doesn't need re-enforcement, but I'm delighted that you've pitched in. Golly! Isn't it amazing that we can talk from such a distance!
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
I will echo timewalker's question to the both of you.
Why is it most folks from other countries seem to be so sympathetic to the Southern view of the American Civil War?
Europe is a puzzle to me in this regard, as I have seen almost every Englander, Pole and German side with the South. Why is that? What is the appeal, the attraction as it were?
Sincerely,
Unionblue
PS Nico, NEVER turn down reinforcements, no matter where they come from!
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Why is it most folks from other countries seem to be so sympathetic to the Southern view of the American Civil War?
I think the film like 'Gone with the Wind' and 'North and South' serial has something to do with it. They show romantic South, with beautifull belles and bravo Southerns. Altough they have slaves and some of them treat them bad (La Motte from N&S) there are good plantators (Orry Main), who are patriotic and treat their slaves good and generally are against slavary, but it doesn`t stop them from having them .....
Anyway Confederacy had common things with Poland:
- They were Confederation with a lot of states laws, which did more harm to southern cause then northern armies. Our 'first' Poland had such 'golden laws' for nobility, which in the end helped to destroy our country in the end of XVIII century. (anyone interested to read -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Liberty )
- They were great cavalrymen (so we were , two Polish greates cavalry victories of XIX century -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Somosierra and http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Albuera_1811.html )
- Their style of living. They had slaves, we had serfdom. Of course it can`t be exactly compared to slavery, but still peasents did not have most rights. What is more important, whenever we were fighting for independence it was hard for nobility to free peasents so they could actively, and in greater part, help in war. Nobility wanted freedom, but to maintain their old privileges.
- The last and most important that we like 'lost causes' .
Nico,
I thought you were to realize the old plan of colonel Sulakowski: to bring thousands of Poles to support the Confederates. Now I see that you follow rather the example of MacNapoleon in asking for reinforcements when you don't need them
As to the question of Timewalker and Unionblue:
I agree with Nico, Poles tend to sympathise with the South, because our own history is somewhat similar to the southern.
Nevertheless, I know a few Union fanatics from our country.
Thank you both for your replies to my questions. I enjoyed reading them very much.
You have "Union fanatics" in your country? Being a leader/labeled Union fanatic here and at other boards, could you describe how you can tell a Polish "Union fanatic?"
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
If some of my countrymen label every Confederate officer as a criminal and a tyrant, justify all offences of federal soldiers against southerners, and call every favourable to the Confederacy opinion "the Lost Cause"- then I think it has something to do with fanaticism.
Unionblue, I'm a new user here, so as yet I have not been acquainted with your version of "union fanaticism"
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