Nascar

[larry_cockerham]

This should be of interest to any of you who enjoy watching people drive cars around paved ovals.

REPORT ON NASCAR HERITAGE DEFENSE
> THE ATLANTA 500 NASCAR RACE
>
> Gentlemen and Sons of Confederate Veterans
>
> Grayson Jennings of the Heritage Defense Committee led about
20 men in
> our attack on NASCAR in Atlanta. We had Battle flags signs we
had taken
> from old Georgia political signs left over from the Georgia
flag fight
> along with a tank of helium and bags of balloons and released
hundreds
> of these balloons with the battle flag attached about every
15 minutes
> and they were flying all over the stadium. We passed out 800
battle
> flags with the checkered victory flag on the end. We also put
up battle
> flags all up and down a 20 mile stretch leading into the
race. A Yankee
> with southern sympathies jumped in with our men and helped us
with this
> project. Elijah Coleman of the Georgia Division even took one
of the
> Battle flags attached it to a balloon and tethered it at the
entrance
> to NASCAR. The flags were flying all over the infield and in
the stands.
>
> At noon the Confederate Air Force showed up with a 30' X 50'
Battle
> flag with a streamer behind it saying "NASCAR Don't Forget
Your Roots."
> As it came in view of the stadium a tremendous roar went up
from the
> crowd you could hear for miles.
>
> As our men passed out the flags we were swamped with
questions about
> the SCV and many people were giving us unsolicited donations.
The men
> did what recruiting we could with the work they had to do,
however as
> we progress with this attack in other races we are going to
need help
> in this area as we have not budgeted for recruiting and
cannot handle
> both the defense and recruiting, we just don't have the man
power or
> the funds. We will need help in this respect as we bring our
attack to
> Darlington. A tremendous thanks to the Georgia Division for
their
> response to our call for assistance in this defense and in
particular
> Elijah Coleman and his brother Dan of the Georgia division,
their
> assistance was invaluable.
>
> At this point, NASCAR has not made any statements concerning
our attack
> and the media has ignored our press releases. However,
gentleman they
> can't ignore us for much longer as it is clear from this
Atlanta attack
> we have won the hearts of the NASCAR fans and due to the
support of our
> Commander in Chief Chris Sullivan and the Confederate hearts
of the GEC
> the attacks WILL continue.
>
> We also now have three SCV cars on the small stock car tracks
and due
> to more funds from the Virginia DEC we will soon have a
fourth, and I
> have feelers out for still a fifth in Florida at the Bronson
motor
> speedway near Gainsesville, Fla. These cars are very popular
on the
> small tracks. As NASCAR tickets have gotten so expensive a
lot of our
> country boys can't afford them any more, therefore they are
returning
> to the small tracks in droves and the most popular car out
there is our
> SCV car, win or lose gentlemen they ARE the crowd favorite.
If NASCAR
> put an SCV car on it's track IT Would be the favorite hands
down, and
> after all NASCAR is about money. If they want to win back
the crowds
> in the South Land they are going to have change their tune to
Dixie.
>
> Gentlemen again I would like to doff my hat to Grayson
Jennings for
> the time, money and perseverance he has expended in leading
this
> attack, truly no man could have done more. The success of
this endevor
> is directly attributed to Grayson Jennings, the Coleman
bothers of
> Georgia and their Georgia Flaggers.
>
> I have attached a picture of our latest "small track" SCV
car. I have
> attached this one in particular for strange as it may seem,
his name is
> John Mosby and he is the CO-champion of the South Side
Speedway here in
> Virginia. More photos will follow on the Atlanta attack as
they come in.
>
> LETS TAKE NASCAR BACK! We have made Dale Earnhart Jr. shut
his mouth,
> now lets make him eat his words.
>
> Gentlemen, distribute this report as you see fit.
>
> Yours in the Bonds of the Southland
> Darryl Starnes, Chief, Heritage Defense
> Sons of Confederate Veterans

[unionblue]

Larry,

It's nice to see all that effort going into historical preservation, like campaigning for funds for the Museum of the Confederacy or to help restore the destroyed home of..., who was that guy? A President of the Confederacy or something?

I forget because its been so long since anyone has brought it up.

Or maybe this is just the wrong thread to mention preservation.

Sincerely,
Unionblue

[larry_cockerham]

We all have our priorities. Auto racing ain't one of mine either. As you may have noticed, folks will waste energy on some mighty strange stuff. In my opinion Daisy Duke (like Daisy Duck, come to think of her) had her place in our nation's fabric. If crazy folks want to wave Confederate flags at stock car races, you northern folks should feel relieved. At least you know where they are on Saturday nights?

[richard]

Once a year they invade Hoosier land for about 3 days. I will say, that these energy packed race fans do show, for the most part, there southern politeness and pride.

"If you love the South, say glory! " Brother Dave Gardner

[unionblue]

Larry,

It really doesn't matter to me where the majority of folks physically are when they attend NASCAR races and wave Confederate flags. Frankly, watching fast cars go in circles for hours doesn't strike me as worthy of one's free time, but hey, that's me. It's still a free country.

What worries me is where the minds are of those who think its a big deal to launch balloons with the CBF on them at an event that is not owned by them nor that they own any stock in and then bleat about 'heritage violations' or think they can walk in and run a 100 year+ museum at the drop of a hat just because of a name & location change.

The trouble is, I know where those folks are, in their heads and in their bodies.

Unionblue

[william42]

Maybe I'm missing something from the original post by Larry. I've read it through three times now, and I have to ask: "Where's the problem here?" These SCV members are not forcing anything down anyone's throat, as far as I can tell. If the story can be believed, the crowd at Atlanta were very much entertained by the CBF's floating around them etc. And the author is quite correct, and I've said it myself somewhere on another thread, Nascar was born in the south.

If it were the KKK burning crosses, and flying the CBF on balloons covered in racist graffiti, well, that's an entirely different thing. But it's not the KKK, it's the SCV.

They want more exposure at Nascar events. Maybe they'll get it and maybe they won't, but was it harmful or injurious what they did in Atlanta? No.

I'm not a Nascar fan, and I have no interest in the SCV, but why should they be prohibited from doing those PR things at a race? What if it were Coca-cola or the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation sending up balloons. Why not? That would be fine with me too. What harm did it do?

When I worked in Denver, I had a good friend who transferred out there as well. We worked for Fedex, as I did. On the sort line in the morning his truck was next to mine. All he talked about during the sort was stock car racing and Nascar. I enjoyed listening to him. You know where he transferred in from?...Talladega, Alabama. He was working on customizing his own car all the time I was in Denver. He also had a CBF sticker inside his rear window in the left corner. Was he a racist? No. He was a heckuva nice friendly fellow, who loved racing.

If I've missed the point of Larry's post, please clue me in. Maybe I'm looking for something that isn't there. Thanks.

Terry

[unionblue]

William42,

THe only problem I have with the SCVs effort at NASCAR is their sense of priorities.

It seems to me that confrontation, not conservation, is the rage.

Yes, they are free to display their outrage at the event organizers at not displaying the CBF at races anymore. Makes for good press, etc.

But how many graves does it mark? How much money does it raise for the MOC? The restoration of Davis's plantation home?

Just my spin on it.

Unionblue

[larry_cockerham]

Originally Posted by unionblue

William42,

THe only problem I have with the SCVs effort at NASCAR is their sense of priorities.

It seems to me that confrontation, not conservation, is the rage.

Yes, they are free to display their outrage at the event organizers at not displaying the CBF at races anymore. Makes for good press, etc.

But how many graves does it mark? How much money does it raise for the MOC? The restoration of Davis's plantation home?

Just my spin on it.

Unionblue

My eloquent friend, I don't believe the folks at any Nascar event and the SCV have the same priorities except by accident or an occasional overlap as in this case. There has been an ongoing 'feud' between the France family and the Nascar fans as Nascar attempts their version of political correctness. That's their problem. Wendell Scott did more for drawing black fans into what they term a sport than all these silly fights will ever do. I cheered for Wendell a time or two myself. He was his own mechanic, left a bag of sandwiches on the seat in case he got hungry during the gruelling drive. That was sport. Today's world has gone mondo caine.

Neil, you also wrote in a recent post about knowing what's inside these folks "bodies". I beg to differ with that one having read literally hundreds of your well written posts. I still don't believe you have a clue about the basic elements of Southern pride. That's what these folks were celebrating, what many of us feel in our hearts, not something one can learn from a video. The bad things that the press trys to drag into this argument simply ain't a part of that.

[unionblue]

Larry,

Southern Pride or Confederate Pride?

Larry, I have seen Southern Pride, many times, and am glad that I have. From a gentel way I have been treated by those down South, to the pride demonstrated and rightly so, that is displayed in accomplishment and lending a helping hand.

There is a friendly way with folks, willing to help out a perfect stranger, putting themselves out to do so.

I have no problem with Southern pride or where that comes from.

The folks I claim to 'know' in my above post are not included in this one.

Sincerely,
Unionblue

[william42]

THe only problem I have with the SCVs effort at NASCAR is their sense of priorities.

It seems to me that confrontation, not conservation, is the rage.

Yes, they are free to display their outrage at the event organizers at not displaying the CBF at races anymore. Makes for good press, etc.

But how many graves does it mark? How much money does it raise for the MOC? The restoration of Davis's plantation home?

Thanks Neil, for your reply. I'm not following along very well with this, obviously, so I guess I'll drop it.

Terry