I posted on this in the general discussion forum. Check out Kevin Levin's "Civil War Memory" site about this and other controversies around how we remember the Civil War.
Can you post the URL for the site so some of us can go visit?
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Try this URL Neil. I believe it's linked to Levine's blog. It's very interesting in that I would not have believed there would be Americans who would have a problem honoring Lincoln on the 200th anniversary of his birth date, but evidently there are. I'm sure I'm naive in thinking that everyone is a Lincoln fan, but that's the environment in which I was brought up. Obviously some folks who grow up in the South might hold a different opinion.
__________________ "In this great struggle, this form of Government and every form of human right is endangered if our enemies succeed. There is more involved in this contest than is realized by every one." Abraham Lincoln - August 18, 1864 Speech to the 164th Ohio Regiment
As for your comments, no, I am not surprised that there are still those who cannot honor Lincoln. After being on several Civil War boards and web sites, very little surprises me anymore.
Amuses and saddens me, but hardly ever surprises me.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
As for your comments, no, I am not surprised that there are still those who cannot honor Lincoln. After being on several Civil War boards and web sites, very little surprises me anymore.
Amuses and saddens me, but hardly ever surprises me.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
Neil, I believe I recall your finally admitting that you had some Confederate genes. As you know, I've admitted my Union origins many times. Looking at this conflict from a somewhate neutral standpoint (though it ain't easy having been blessed with some obnoxious yankee first cousins), I too share amusement and sadness. The amusement comes from many sources, the sadness from the hatred and bigotry that still rears it's ugly head from time to time and from the lack of effort many of the folks jabbering about the war make to uncover the simple truth. Just stating the facts about the conflict should suffice to quell the argument. Perhaps someday that will happen. Hang in there!
__________________ Ancestors in US Army: 13th TN Cav; 10th TN Cav; 3rd NC Inf
Ancestors in CSA Army: 48th VA; 63rd VA, 5th NC Cav; 37th NC
Wife and Grandson's CSA: 15th AL, 51st GA, 41st TN; 36th TN; GA Mil 1197 Dist
...the sadness from the hatred and bigotry that still rears it's ugly head from time to time and from the lack of effort many of the folks jabbering about the war make to uncover the simple truth. Just stating the facts about the conflict should suffice to quell the argument. Perhaps someday that will happen.
Hang in there![/quote]That's the puzzling part, Larry. Why is there hate? Granted, there is very little of it, but when I run across it, I can't figure out why it's there. The USCW was something very remote that some of y'all had ggfathers quarreling about something or other and shot a lot of each other. This is pertinent to me or you how?
Had occasion on another forum to read another fresh voice maintaining that northern greed and imperialism were the root cause of the conflict. I know you like to place slavery as a cause in a slightly depreciated role, but you ain't crazy enough to figure it had absolutely nothing to do with it. I think I'll crawl under my desk, assume a fetal position and suck the bejeezus out of my thumb.
And on that slurp, I'll finish. Ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
I would not have believed there would be Americans who would have a problem honoring Lincoln on the 200th anniversary of his birth date, but evidently there are. I'm sure I'm naive in thinking that everyone is a Lincoln fan, but that's the environment in which I was brought up.
Any northern state honor Jeff Davis lately?
New York maybe? What about Massachusetts? Vermont? Maine? Connecticut?
After all Davis never sent any armies to invade and desolate those states.