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Old 11-01-2005, 03:32 PM
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Thumbs up Franklin, Tn - Pizza Hut destruction on Battle Anv.

Pizza Hut destruction will commemorate battle

City also plans to sign paperwork Nov. 30 on Country Club purchase

By KEVIN WALTERS
Staff Writer

FRANKLIN—Mayor Tom Miller wants a spectacle Nov. 30 to mark the anniversary of the Battle of Franklin.

But not just any spectacle. Instead Miller wants one involving a bulldozer, a restaurant and a battlefield.

"I want it dramatic," Miller said. "I want a bulldozer up there and run it into the building. That is also the easiest way to do it. "

Doing that culminates months of work and money, namely the $300,000 the city spent to buy the property earlier this year and would effectively rid the city of a symbol that local and national preservationists viewed as a disgrace.

It's on that location 141 years ago Nov. 30 that some of the heaviest and bloodiest fighting took place. And it's been the site of a restaurant since the 1970s, a restaurant that was mentioned as part of a National Geographic magazine pictorial about the increase of Civil War battlefields being redeveloped as part of residential and commercial projects.

If the destruction of the Pizza Hut happens in the morning, the afternoon will likely be taken up with a ceremony to mark the city's other reclamation project — and another spectacle.

This one likely involves a golf course, a nonprofit group and a battlefield.

Specifically, city officials would be signing the papers for purchasing the 110-acre Country Club of Franklin which they have bought for $5 million from businessman Rod Heller with public funds and money raised by the nonprofit group, Franklin's Charge. That land is considered part of the Eastern Flank of the battle and is near Historic Carnton Plantation which was used as a field hospital.

The ceremony may take place at the country club's clubhouse, weather permitting.

The city staff is still working out details on all these plans, Miller said.

"I would like that as a day that the people would remember," Miller said. "We would demolish the Pizza Hut in the morning, for example and in the afternoon sign the papers purchasing the country club."

The actual closing on that property would take place after some federal funds which have been pledged from the American Battlefield Protection Program are transmitted to the city. Those funds have been approved, Miller said, but they have "just gotten wrapped up in bureaucracy."

Joe Smyth, president of the group Save the Franklin Battlefield, has heard firsthand from fellow battlefield aficionados in locales like San Francisco or Oregon about their contempt for the Pizza Hut.

To use their exact words, Smyth said: "'That **** Pizza Hut.'"

That restaurant has been a "lightning rod" for preservationists through the years, he said, though seeing it torn down would also mean a loss for them, too.

"In one respect it's good (to have it torn down) but in others sad because you lose your lightning rod," Smyth said. "I only wish the county could get on board with those successes."

As part of the celebration, flags denoting Civil War-era field hospitals will be flown around Franklin at the 44 sites that were used as field hospitals during the aftermath of the battle.

All of it, Miller said, demonstrates the dramatic changes that have taken place over time.

"The way we celebrate (the Battle of Franklin) in 2005 is reclaim a very small portion of the core battlefield and reclaim a portion of the Eastern Flank," Miller said.

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:46 PM
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Hey, he mentioned my round table. We bought 1/4 acre at our last meeting. Wait til the folks here hear about this. Thank you Scone.
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Roy Hodge( the famed hardcore re-enactor from Confederates in the Attic) of Wide Awake Films has a new film out "The Battle of Franklin-Five Hours in the Valley of Death". He used footage from the national reenactment of the battle in Spring Hill, Tenn, last year.
I understand that at my RT meeting tomorrownight we will get to see this film. Can't wait to see it. (Heads up to Ole-meeting starts 7pm at Bird Park.)
I have the first Wide Awake version of this battle "Franklin-Hell's Fury in Tennessee, using 9,000 reenactors to recreate the battles of Spring Hill, Franklin and Nashville. Will probably watch this one before I head out to the meeting.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:04 PM
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I picked up a copy of "The Battle of Franklin-Five Hours in the Valley of Death" when I visited Carnton back in September. It is excellent.



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Old 11-01-2005, 10:25 PM
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Roy Hodge( the famed hardcore re-enactor from Confederates in the Attic) of Wide Awake Films has a new film out "The Battle of Franklin-Five Hours in the Valley of Death". He used footage from the national reenactment of the battle in Spring Hill, Tenn, last year.
I understand that at my RT meeting tomorrow night we will get to see this film. Can't wait to see it. (Heads up to Ole-meeting starts 7pm at Bird Park.)
I have the first Wide Awake version of this battle "Franklin-Hell's Fury in Tennessee, using 9,000 reenactors to recreate the battles of Spring Hill, Franklin and Nashville. Will probably watch this one before I head out to the meeting.
Chuck in IL.
Mobile, the person you are referring to is Robert Hodge not Roy : ) but he does go by Rob..

I was there (The !40th Battle of Franklin Reenactment ) but haventr been able to find myself in any of the footage .. although there are sever others in my unit that in it.. the Documentery on the battle is one of the best i seen. I look forward to hear what tyou have to say about it.


God bless you all for contributing to the preservation of the hollowed ground in Franklin. And for taking the time to remember those on both brave and gallant Americans that fought that last day of November in 1864

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Old 11-01-2005, 10:26 PM
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Happy Dance! Happy Dance! From a paper in Franklin and here's the link if you want to verify the source. It's clipped and pasted it below.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....40/1352/COUNTY

Country Club of Franklin closes today

Another chapter ends in battlefield's history book

By KEVIN WALTERS
Staff Writer


FRANKLIN — Out in the chilly wind and dying light of a recent afternoon, Mike O'Rourke wanted to squeeze in a few more rounds on the greens of the Country Club of Franklin before closing time.

Yet when closing time for the club comes today, it means the club is closing for good.




After months of discussion, the club's management contract expires tomorrow and was not renewed by its owner, Washington, D.C., businessman Rod Heller.

It's a day embraced by Civil War preservationists, who've helped raise a portion of the $5 million to allow the city to buy the 110-acre club. They plan to convert it into a battlefield park to commemorate the Battle of Franklin. But it's also a day filled with genuine loss mixed with anger and regret for some golfers about more than just losing their course.

Between sips of a soda, O'Rourke cut to the heart of what members say they'll miss.

"You could never tell the difference between a doctor, a CEO of a company or a union member at this golf course," said O'Rourke, 48, the president of Local 1853 of the United Auto Workers union at the Saturn automotive plant in Spring Hill. "And, to me, that was the greatest thing and that's what I'm going to miss."

On Nov. 30, the 141st anniversary of the Battle of Franklin, a ceremony will be held where the deed to the land will be turned over to the city.

On Thursday, little was evident that anything was changing at the club. Its swimming pool was covered in a tarp, and the parking lot was mostly empty except for leaves from the bare trees. Walkers hurried by, bundled up in the cold, laughing and talking as they walked nearby.

On one side of that blacktop is the McGavock cemetery, full of the bodies of Confederate soldiers killed in the Battle of Franklin. Directly across from the headstones and the wrought-iron fence is the parking lot where golfers unloaded their bags of clubs.

The parking lot and cemetery have sat side-by-side for years, though tensions existed about the club being on what preservationists have said was ground where soldiers marched during the battle.

It's those two sides that have squared off for the better part of this year about the fate of the golf course that's created the most public acrimony. There are hard feelings among some about the loss of the club and the city's deal to buy the land. Preservationists, however, have always contended that if the support were there they could have raised enough money to buy the club from Heller.

"I'm furious over it, but I don't understand it," said Franklin resident Paul Gardner, 49.

He and his wife, Sherri, have been members for eight years and have often brought their children, 4-year-old twins Connar and Skylar, to the club.

One night they came out and the golf pro let them shoot nine holes, Gardner recalled. And after that, they were part of the family.

"The people almost just adopted us and we weren't members," Gardner explained. "Ever since then, it's been our place to come. We're here all the time. It's going to be difficult to explain to two 4-year-olds that their swimming pool — and the place where they started to learn to hit golf balls — is going to be gone."

Advocates have touted how creating the park will draw more tourists to the area, which will in turn bring more money into the economy.

But would Gardner and his family ever visit the battlefield park?

"Not a chance," Gardner said.

Yet among some of the hard feelings, there is also understanding about the loss.

"My heart goes out to those people," said Joe Smyth, president of Save The Franklin Battlefield Inc., which has raised funds to help purchase the club.

"It's a difficult thing. Everybody wants different things and they don't want it in their backyard. Unfortunately, you can't choose where the battlefields were" he said.

Golfer and Spring Hill resident Mike Fussell, 41, used a $5 coupon to try out the club. He liked it so much, he joined even though he knew his time was going to be short.

"It's like I've been here forever," Fussell said. "They just treated me great."

Sitting on a golf cart wearing golf shoes as white as his Top-Flite golf balls, Fussell said he'd miss the course's scenic views and the wildlife, such as the geese, cranes and the beavers that were recently discovered living there.

Fussell didn't mean any disrespect to those who fought and died, but the past is the past, he said.

But if Fussell had his druthers — and $5 million — there would likely be a different outcome today instead of golfers taking their final swings.

"If I had $5 million and could of bought it," he said between a laugh, "I probably would have turned it into a golf course." •


Kudos to you too Steve Cone. I see your march raised $305. Good work!

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Correct you are, I did a boo boo pretending I knew how to tpye :-)
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"You could never tell the difference between a doctor, a CEO of a company or a union member at this golf course," said O'Rourke, 48, the president of Local 1853 of the United Auto Workers union"
Same goes for many of the people visiting Civil War Battlefields. Even when talking to them you find them far more interested in learning more about the war than bragging about their job positions.
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Old 11-01-2005, 11:03 PM
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No biggie chuck I had the pleasure of meeting Rob a few times In Franklin, Come to find out out his family is not is in the ame area that some of my family is in and he had a relatives in the 4th Alabama cav, and so do I.

As for Mr. O'Rourke's comments what a space cadet, heck you can go to a sporting event, grocery store and movie theater and get the same feeling.

In my reenacting unit there is a cop, a doctor, lawyer, one that works for the red cross, a cook (myself), emt , nurse, and list goes on..

regards, steven
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(Heads up to Ole-meeting starts 7pm at Bird Park.)

You could stop by and pick me up. We can load the bookcase when we get home.
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