And if the parents and students want to change the name of the school?
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
I never really think it should fall to either parents nor students to name a school. If you leave it to them you are going to end up with it named after a rap singer or a car or a song. Then in 4 years when the next group of parents and student come through renamed again. And again.
This is not about anything but rewriting history. I wish you could see this pattern. Sigh I really do. Next it will be renaming the Washington Monument or all the schools, streets and buildings named after Jefferson or Jackson etc.
YMOS
tommy
(Message edited by aphillbilly on October 01, 2003)
Rewriting History? You don't think ol' Jeb ain't earned that already in our history books and in our military academies?
As for rewriting history, what about ignoring an entire part of our past, the struggle for Civil Rights? It deserves no statues, no buildings with names, etc?
We got a school here not 3 miles from me called Hamilton Township High School, and trust me, there were numerous times I wish the damed thing had been named anything but my last name while I attended there. But it would not distress me to see it named for a hero, past or present, even though some might wish to keep the name.
Renaming a building does not have to mean that we are rewriting history, does it?
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Neil,
Renaming "A" building would not bother me in the least. If it was "A' build...but it isn't. It so many it can't be reckoned and it is always focused on those named after confederates. That is what bothers me.
Now for buildings or schools and such, I don't know if I can convince myself you have a case for southern history being rewritten.
Now, if monuments were torn down, destroyed, bombed, eradicated or somehow changed from its original meaning, I might be a tad more sympathetic.
I mean, look at Confederate Ave. in Richmond, an entire right-of-way dedicated to the heroes of the Confederacy. Try to put one statue of an African American, and the whole world is out to get the South.
Or better yet, in my own view, put up a statue of Lincoln in Richmond, and every cause but a good one is used to try and prevent it being placed.
Too sensitive and not for the right reasons at times, Tommy.
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Too sensitive? Bridges, Flags, Roads, Schools, all manner of constructs being renamed because they are deemed offensive. No longer deemed acceptable. That is rewriting history. That is putting an offical stamp of "it's evil" on it. That is officially saying..be ashamed they were bad and offensive people.
Right reasons? Ok. I'll accept since it is not your heritage being denigrated so that it might be made to disappear it must be the wrong reasons. But guess what, at this rate, it won't be long and it will be your's. And of course of you disagree and don't like it, it will be over sensitive and for the wrong reasons too.
Seriously Neil, if you cannot see the pattern of recent events, as well as the motives, if you do not see what is going on, I'm at a loss.
YMOS
tommy
(Message edited by aphillbilly on October 02, 2003)
It would indeed be a good thing to honor the Civil Rights activists mentioned, and to have schools and public places named for them. however, as Mr King in the articles states' "Trying to rename JEB Stuart School is once again trying to slap one portion of society while honoring another." And great truth lies therein. These Civil Rights heroes are not further honored by shoving aside those of an earlier era.
As the earlier era in question is a target of current 'Civil Rights' activists, the 'honor' is in truth a cover for political and/or self-serving interests. As the proposal's initiator whined after the vote denying the measure was taken, that it was "a demonstration of cowardice in the face of the Confederacy.", this is made abundantly clear. It is also a fairly typical wail of the sour-grapes put-off liberal in action. It would be a good thing if this (and everyone really) advocate could step out of one's self the better to view history objectively and one's relation to it. Certainly before hissing and spitting and trumpeting worthy causes equivocally.
regards, friends, ed
__________________ 'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag'
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