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Old 09-23-2007, 08:14 PM
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Dear Johann_Steele, I shall respond simply with the following:


I know'd just the mere mention of Major Hildebrand's name is likely to cause ya'll to wet yourselves, but after you've cleaned up, checkout this story. The Ozarks were full of dangerous men, back in the day. Maybe even still to this day. Why don't ya'll come for a looksee?
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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I know'd just the mere mention of Major Hildebrand's name is likely to cause ya'll to wet yourselves, but after you've cleaned up, checkout this story. The Ozarks were full of dangerous men, back in the day. Maybe even still to this day. Why don't ya'll come for a looksee?
Been there done that Ozark, most dangerous place I can think of would have been the local Wal Mart. Well I hate to burst your bubble but my trousers are still dry.

So you think if Hildebrand, Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson along w/ a couple other heroes of yours had been given command of the CS and allowed to expand their operations the US would have just rolled over... I suppose I shouldn't be suprised. I guess I expected more.
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Why don't ya'll come for a looksee?
Hot Springs Village? Only if I can meet Estrada!

Just a quick question, what is the population density of Arkansas in 1860?
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:08 PM
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The CHP play-actor has a special attraction for you? I find it rather sad that the guy is reduced to doing 4th rate commercials. Kinda makes you wonder.

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Old 09-24-2007, 01:39 AM
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Dear Johann_Steele, I shall respond simply with the following:


SOUTHEAST MISSOURI'S NOTORIOUS OUTLAW

By: Esther M. Ziock Carroll

I know'd just the mere mention of Major Hildebrand's name is likely to cause ya'll to wet yourselves, but after you've cleaned up, checkout this story. The Ozarks were full of dangerous men, back in the day. Maybe even still to this day. Why don't ya'll come for a looksee?
Yeah I might be afeared if'n I was some po' Unionist leanin farmer with only a rifle-gun what I used on squirrels n sech. Or some Home Guard conscript settin on a porch asleep.

Yet another self commissioned /promoted opportunist who used a veneer of allegeiance to the South to justify his actions. Stand him next to Capt Anderson, Capt Todd, Colonel Quantrill and Capt. Clements when you open the trap door. Least they got the outlaw part right.

I grew up up in the Ozarks further south and west of O'soggy Beach. I ain't skeered we'll drink some corn likker and jug line some cats.
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Perhaps, but Anderson and Quantrill are made out to be villians, outlaws and the lowest of the low while Lane, a United States Senator and Jennison are praised and lauded and made out to be heros of the Republic and the progeny of General James G. Blunt rule in Missouri and Washington D.C. to this day.
ROFLMAO. I heard Matt Blunt was recommissioning the Home Guard and was gonna turn Camden County into a Burnt Zone. Load up those .44's OIJ. Blunts Yanks er comin ta git ya.
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Doggone pleasant to hear some genuine Missouri talk goin' on here. A few of my finest memories are the years I spent there. I did like Iowa, and I hated Michigan, but I comfort myself with the years in Missouri. Dammn! That was a nice time! There was no hate among the people I knew. They just liked very much being alive. I'd wish for all of us to have their touch.

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I ain't skeert none neither. What say we all get together and share a jug a Corn Whiskey and go searchin' for Alf Bolin's Lost Treasure down round Branson way next month?

Who's with me, Ya'll?

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The Confederacy did wage guerilla warfare in Missouri, Kansas, Kentucky and western Virginia, to name a few.

Even in the area of eastern Virginia, between Confederate army lines and Washington, D.C.

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CITY POINT, August 16, 1864-1.30 p.m [Received 6.30 a.m.17th.]

Major-General SHERIDAN,

Commanding, &c., Winchester, Va.:

Fitz Lee's division is not in the Valley. We took quite a number of prisoners from it yesterday north of the James. Kershaw's division has gone to the Valley, and probably two brigades of Wilcox's division. Some cavalry has gone, but I do not know whose. I would not advise an attack on Early in an intrenched position, but would watch him closely with the cavalry, and if he attempts to move north follow him. The 100-days' men will have to be discharged at the expiration of their time unless there is a pressing necessity for detaining them for a few days on account of immediate active hostilities. The families of most of Mosby's men are known, and can be collected. I think they should be taken and kept at Fort McHenry, or some secure place, as hostages for the good conduct of Mosby and his men. Where any of Mosby's men are caught hang them without trial.

U. S. GRANT,

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MAY 10—12, 1862.—Skirmishes near Franklin, W. Va.

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COLONEL: A small scouting party from Franklin was enticed into a house to-day, and, on a signal given by the owner of the house was set upon by bushwhackers. One of my men was taken and his brains beaten out before the door.
I sent out another party when I learned of it, who shot the owner of the house and burnt the house. Another bushwhacker was killed by another of our scouting parties to-day in his attempt to escape after being taken in the very act of firing with his rifle upon one of our cavalrymen.
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What if the CSA had aggressivley pursued a Guerrilla Campaign against the Union?
I recently had the opportunity to watch a Civil war series on the History channel a couple of days ago.

One issue that seemed to repeat itself - Sherman, Grant, and Lincoln, were very concerned that the South might resort to a guerilla war. The series indicated that the Gen Porter (Commander of AoNV Artillery) had suggested to Lee that he dissolve the AoNV into guerrilla forces in the mountains. I understand that Porter was considered one of the best and the brightest - yet Lee decided against his recommendation anyway.
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