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Old 01-14-2006, 12:25 PM
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Southern born, General George Thomas, served with A.S. Johnston, John Bell Hood, William J. Hardee and others in the old Second Cavalry.
What do you think would have happened if General Thomas had put state ahead of country as many of the Southern-born officers did?
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Old 01-14-2006, 02:32 PM
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Southern born, General George Thomas, served with A.S. Johnston, John Bell Hood, William J. Hardee and others in the old Second Cavalry.
What do you think would have happened if General Thomas had put state ahead of country as many of the Southern-born officers did?
He probably would have had the misfortune to serve under Braxton Bragg.
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Old 01-14-2006, 03:47 PM
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Gen. Thomas apparently wasn't a combat leader, but a general who could manage. The CSA could have certainly benefited from his talents. I'd swap Davis for him.

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Mr. Cockerham, Compliments,

The General of which you last spoke "Thomas" may have been in SOME cases been a tad slow to react, he was by far a lot better than most, and decisive. Even to the point of having a monument of him standing in Springfield KY.(pretty reb area), As far as having him on the "Reb" side, It couldn`t have done any harm. Consider-Bragg, Johnston, to a degree P.G.T. Beauregard in the west.

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Old 01-15-2006, 12:08 AM
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Mr. Cockerham, Compliments,

The General of which you last spoke "Thomas" may have been in SOME cases been a tad slow to react, he was by far a lot better than most, and decisive. Even to the point of having a monument of him standing in Springfield KY.(pretty reb area), As far as having him on the "Reb" side, It couldn`t have done any harm. Consider-Bragg, Johnston, to a degree P.G.T. Beauregard in the west.

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Wondering if there are any other monuments to Thomas in Nashville or other places South?
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:04 PM
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Sam, I'll have to check to be sure, but I believe there is a Thomas monument here in Centennial Park in Nashville. If you'll peek at my postings today on the 1865 thread, you'll see what Sherman thought of Thomas.
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The Thomas Monument in Nashville is to the memory of Major John W. Thomas who happened to own the Nashville-Chattanooga Railroad and was the chairman of the Centennial Exposition held in Nashville 1900. Here's a little note I just saw concerning Maj. Gen. George H. Thomas:

Thomas, the victorious Union commander at the Battle of Nashville, was a native Virginian and career soldier who felt honor-bound to stay loyal to the Union when the Civil War began. Because he fought for the Union, his family disowned him, “turned his picture to the wall,” and there was no reconciliation after the war.
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The Thomas Monument in Nashville is to the memory of Major John W. Thomas who happened to own the Nashville-Chattanooga Railroad and was the chairman of the Centennial Exposition held in Nashville 1900. Here's a little note I just saw concerning Maj. Gen. George H. Thomas:

Thomas, the victorious Union commander at the Battle of Nashville, was a native Virginian and career soldier who felt honor-bound to stay loyal to the Union when the Civil War began. Because he fought for the Union, his family disowned him, “turned his picture to the wall,” and there was no reconciliation after the war.
Frankly, I'm not surprised there is no Thanks from Nashville for the Union general who saved Nashville from Confederate assault.

Now I wonder if there are in Nashville, monuments and or commemorative of Hood or other Southern combatants?
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Sam, the monuments here are all Confederate that I know of, unless you count Union Fort Negley. The Battle of Nashville Monument is a bit neutral referencing the event more than anything else. Numerous monuments in the area to the 1st Tennessee that was the local Confederate Unit. At our Winstead Hill location in Franklin there are monuments to the five generals killed in the battle of Franklin, but not to the very unpopular Hood. His efforts at Franklin brought him no local laurels.
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