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Old 08-18-2006, 09:44 PM
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"...if you were buried up to your chin in a vat of poo-poo, and someone threw a bucket of snot at you... would you duck?".
That sounds like an unpleasant predicament to find yourself in Joe. Neither choice sounds good.. kinda like "the rock and the hard place" analogy. But, hey, you made it past the censor!


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JKeith,

"Stealin' it!!!"

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Old 08-18-2006, 10:27 PM
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"Stealin' it!!!"

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Because one key to being a good teacher is to know how to "borrow" an idea from another teacher and either warp it to make it your own or take it use it as is, but as your own. I was taught that by my professors and other teachers. I readily admit to doing it too. "Stealin' it," is my motto.
Please explain more precisely what you mean by "borrow." What it sounds like here is deliberate plagiarism. Evidence of plagiarism among professionals, particularly in history, can and will end a career.
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:41 PM
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Scots,

Relax...relax, no need to alert the teaching authorities and have my license revoked. What I mean by borrowing or stealing is basically this: one teacher has an interesting, new and/or fun way to teach any educational concept that can be taught in any subject from grades pre-k through college. It can be used for behavior modification techniques or classroom organization as well That teacher tells others what he or she did and how well it worked. Or one teacher is in the room observing the fun/creative new way to teach a concept and uses it as well.

For example, one teacher teaches 1st grade addition and subtraction using MnM's. The test scores from that chapter come back and WOW, all the kids did well. That technique worked. That new technique gets borrowed or shared. I call it stolen by other teachers who want to try it or maybe use it to teach that concept or a different concept...perhaps graphing favorite color. Or one teacher has a new game to play with his class at recess, example pursuit dodgeball. He shares it. Others use it as well.

Nothing devious, sinister or criminal behind it. Just making better more creative teachers and more engaging learning by sharing and borrowing ideas from one another.

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Relax...relax, ...
Nothing devious, sinister or criminal behind it. Just making better more creative teachers and more engaging learning by sharing and borrowing ideas from one another.

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This is a process called "best practices" and is one of the most productive ways to move any group, any business further on down the road. Some mentors do it naturally... some businesses or groups spend hours a month in organized sessions discussing their successes and finding ways to implement them throughout their program.

It used to be called caring, cooperating and helping each other but all that kind of fell from popularity.

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Old 08-19-2006, 07:16 PM
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JKeith,


Same thing. When we get together with other school districts at inservices, we call it best practices. When we do it amongst our own staff, we call it borrowing or stealing.


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Bart,

Sharing and using teaching techniques isn't a problem. What threw me was your statement "take it use it as is, but as your own." This suggests taking credit for something that is not yours...as does your "motto" -- "Stealin' it." "Borrowing" or implementing a teaching practice or technique would not require any unjust or secretive act. It would simply be shaping one's own classroom or teaching method upon a different model.
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Semantics. When someone is doing a better job than you are, the better part of doing your job is to find out what the other is doing and see what you can do to improve yourself. When you do that sort of thing in advertising and marketing, you're a copycat and fairly ridiculed as uncreative. When you do that sort of thing in teaching, you are doing your students a favor -- after all, that is your job.
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Ole,

Thanks. Everybody in the teaching field does it. I "steal" from other teachers. Other teachers "steal" from me. It's what is best for the kid.

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