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Old 05-09-2007, 11:43 PM
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without any supporting knowledge, it is reasonable to assume that Sherman was Grant's 'go to' guy.
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Dammit, Paul. Now I'm going to hafta get Flood's book! Who put you up to this?

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without any supporting knowledge, it is reasonable to assume that Sherman was Grant's 'go to' guy.
I believe that Sherman would have been nothing if it had not been for Grant. I know that will rufle some feathers, but Sherman seems to rely on Grant to make him look good and to garner promotions. Grant did not need anyone to help him look good allthough I think Thomas was better.

Ole, I have to get the book also.

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Thanks Oneplez,

I re-read the aforementioned references ..sorry, I thought you had something official from Grant.

You might want to read Flood's book - he has great references and solid quote sources.

He wrote "Thomas, who was to say that he was resentful of being held back while Grant gave Sherman the chance to win the day..."

Seems to come from the horses mouth..sorta...

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Texas, I'll have to get into that book I guess. But, Thomas from what I've read, didn't engage in backbiting or commenting on his superiors.

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without any supporting knowledge, it is reasonable to assume that Sherman was Grant's 'go to' guy.
Um, good guess! Who did he call to help at Chattanooga? Who did he appoint Commander of the Military Division of the Mississippi? Who did he tell to try and win the war in the west because he didn't think he could do it in the east? Who did he let lead 62,000 men out of the war to vacation in the south in November?


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Texas, I'll have to get into that book I guess. But, Thomas from what I've read, didn't engage in backbiting or commenting on his superiors.

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I checked out some reviews and wasn't satisfied that this was just another of the 5001 books written about Grant. I think you might find a better treatment of Grant by McFeely. As to Sherman, try The Atlanta Campaign by Castel.


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Thanks Oneplez,

I think I have read William McFeely's book in a round about way since it is listed as a source in every book ever written about Grant since 1981!!

I do love Flood's book though. My sources for credits must be diff from yours as info I have shows kudos from both writers and university historians, even Southern ones..lol.

I am a great fan of Grant - my realatives are rolling over in thier graves - and try to keep up with my reading.

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Old 05-12-2007, 10:52 AM
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Grant and Sherman have one thing in their credits that few others could claim: Victory in American Civil War

As great as Lee, Forrest, Jackson, Cleburne and others might have been, they could not make that claim.

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I do love Flood's book though. My sources for credits must be diff from yours as info I have shows kudos from both writers and university historians, even Southern ones..lol.

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I hate to bust bubbles. But, have you ever seen a “historian” (southern or other) roast each others books? Those little quotes, particularly from those with a little name recognition, usually extoll the book under discussion, using every positive descriptive adjective they can conjure up. The object being to hawk the book. It’s an act of reciprocity practiced throughout the industry. You say nice things about my book and I’ll say nice things about your book. Even reviewers don’t always really stick it to a poorly written book.

I have the impression most of the civil war stuff is written to satisfy a writer’s financial needs rather than exposing new research. They just give you their spin on the topic. I prefer my own analysis.

McFeely’s book is probably the most honest book about Grant, but even he sounds (to me) like he’s (McFeely) sorry he had to say some nasty things about Grant’s drinking and slaughter-house tactics.

But, you sound as though you’ve done a bit of reading already and if your satisfied, hell, let her rip.


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