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18 dead [either at the massacre or as a result of wounds sustained in the massacre]
5 wounded or sick survivors
12 captured
[p. 836]
Regards,
Cash
My research shows at least 19 survived:
4 wounded (all survived)
1 not wounded
5 reported as captured (all returned to duty)
9 "missing in action" (were prisoners; returned to duty)
Highest possible number killed 16:
6 "killed in action"
8 "missing in action" (no later record)
2 "missing in action" (pension inquiries: 1882, 1892)***
To get anywhere near Cimprich's numbers you have to assume that all of these 10 MIA were killed at Fort Pillow.
No possibility of any being a prisoner and later dying of disease?
No possibility of any surviving the war?***
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What are his numbers for the 6th U.S. Heavy Artillery?
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What are his numbers for the 6th U.S. Heavy Artillery?.
How about you start by telling us what "your numbers" are for the unit? Do you have any?
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
Not a thing, simply tells much of what happened. I don't have a case to prove, you do. Your convenient avoidance of the other letters is as usual quite telling.
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
Not a thing, simply tells much of what happened. I don't have a case to prove, you do. Your convenient avoidance of the other letters is as usual quite telling.
"don't have a case to prove".....?
Then why are you debating on this thread?
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
He hasn't looked at the pension records... did some looking, not many men who were at Ft Pillow filed requests for pensions after the war... apparently few survived.
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
...either that...or Cimprich is trying to skew the numbers to support the massacre story.
What were the casualties of the 6th U.S. Heavy Artillery?
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
He hasn't looked at the pension records... did some looking, not many men who were at Ft Pillow filed requests for pensions after the war... apparently few survived.
Please inform us where and how you accessed pension records...
...by unit?...or do you have a list of names of those at Ft. Pillow?
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Please inform us where and how you accessed pension records...
...by unit?...or do you have a list of names of those at Ft. Pillow?
Your own posts indicate that you have accessed pension records. Same request to you: How did you do it ...by unit?...or do you have a list of names of those at Ft. Pillow?
Also, once again, do you have numeric strengths and a breakdown of losses for the "6th U.S. Heavy Artillery" at Ft. Pillow on April 12? If so, please share your figures with the forum.
Note: that unit did not officially exist until April 26, 1864, although the units at Ft. Pillow did become part of it.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
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