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Civil War History - Secession and Politics Was it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.

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Old 04-16-2008, 04:49 PM
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War was looking like a strong possibility from 1850 to 1853, so I think the Fugitive Slave Act actually delayed war by 13 years.

Thanks to Millard Filmore.

Whom it turns out, did NOT put the bathtub in The White House. I liked that legend!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_hoax
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War was looking like a strong possibility from 1850 to 1853, so I think the Fugitive Slave Act actually delayed war by 13 years.

Thanks to Millard Filmore.

Whom it turns out, did NOT put the bathtub in The White House. I liked that legend!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_hoax
Well there you go, bursting my bubble. And they even made those TV ads for President's Day celebrating Millard and his bathtub!
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An observation:

Washington, Jackson, and Taylor were all from Southern states, were generals that led an army in battle, and own slaves.

Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan were all from north of Dixie and thier military experience was limited except Pierce but none ever led an army into battle, and dd not own slaves.

The Washington, Jackson, Taylor had no problem confronting rebellions head on and threaten the use of force to preserve the union.

Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan all went out of thier ways to avoid conflict and used appeasement to preserve the union.

I know hindsight is 20/20 but there has to be a meaning or something in these behaviors of these six presidents for us to learn from.


Is there some deep meaning in this comparison?
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Default Presidential Leadership caused the Civil War

The three general's view of America were national, the three civilians view of America were sectional.
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Millard Fillmore did institute the White House library.

I presume that is currently the least used part of The White House!
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Millard Fillmore did institute the White House library.

I presume that is currently the least used part of The White House!
DJ,

I can agree with your above statement.

It is entirely a presumption of yours.

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Way off topic. Try it again.

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Default Presidential Leadership caused the Civil War

I wonder who inspired America's Wars Before Lincoln?
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I wonder who inspired America's Wars Before Lincoln?
If I remember correctly;

Washington started the French and Indian War.

Massachusetts farmers started the American Revolution.

Madison and his Southern friends started the War of 1812.

Polk and his Southern friends started the Mexican War.

Greedy Americans and their armies started the Indian Wars.
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Sermon deleted.

And would not be fair to leave it here if DJ's previous post is not here either.

No problem, Ole, but I think this one should go too.

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