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Civil War History - Secession and Politics Was it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.

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Old 06-26-2008, 11:55 AM
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Dont look at the right of free speech under your own constition much i take it, i dont have to earn the right of free speech, its mine by natural right.
Which means the government can't prevent you, but I am not saying you don't have the right, I am saying that you obviously haven't done the things in life necessary to make any worthy comment on the Consitution, and frankly I have.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:06 PM
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Nope.
The point is the SCOTUS opinion is not an answer the question.

I point out again im not anti american, im anti uniformed ignorant people regardless of nationality.
I'm just curious, are you reading English?

'the states are prohibited from passing any acts which shall be repugnant to a law of the United States.' - what about that quote leads you to believe that the Supremacy Clause is limited to judges?
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The Constitutional right of free speech only protects speech against government interference, and even in that case it does not protect falsehood, slander or libel.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...freespeech.htm
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Which means the government can't prevent you, but I am not saying you don't have the right, I am saying that you obviously haven't done the things in life necessary to make any worthy comment on the Consitution, and frankly I have.
Twaddle, what makes you even consider for a heartbeat, what i know, what experience i have and so on that prevents me from expressing myself, just when and where did you gain the ability to know all that is me and when did you obtain the right to deny me to speak my mind.

Frankly your post shows the exact oppoiste of that which you claim.
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I'm just curious, are you reading English?

'the states are prohibited from passing any acts which shall be repugnant to a law of the United States.' - what about that quote leads you to believe that the Supremacy Clause is limited to judges?
I am, its you who think a question posed to you, about people, can be answered by a reference to states.
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I am, its you who think a question posed to you, about people, can be answered by a reference to states.
This was only a result of your misreading of the Constitution. ALL citizens are required to obey the Constitution and the law -- not only judges as you imagined. There are no exceptions. cw1865's post goes to that.

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I am, its you who think a question posed to you, about people, can be answered by a reference to states.
Q explain why only the judges and not any citizens of states are bound by the suprmacy clause?.
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Twaddle, what makes you even consider for a heartbeat, what i know, what experience i have and so on that prevents me from expressing myself, just when and where did you gain the ability to know all that is me and when did you obtain the right to deny me to speak my mind.

Frankly your post shows the exact oppoiste of that which you claim.
Let me be more specific. In this world YOU have not earned the right to say this: 'Thank you for showing you dont know what your posting about.' to ME.
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Nothing on that web site contradicts what I said.
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Q explain why only the judges and not any citizens of states are bound by the suprmacy clause?.
Yes thats the question i posed, and your reply is not answer to that question.
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