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Civil War History - Secession and Politics Was it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.

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Old 06-24-2008, 11:28 AM
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Thank you for showing you dont know what your posting about.
Last I checked you haven't earned the right to say that to me.
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:43 AM
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this is the source i used, and the source rockwell used acording to the time stamp.http://www.civilwarhome.com/sovereignstates.htm

The point is you could not answer the question, not who first posed it.
The point is that my source is a Supreme Court decision which you can read for yourself and your source is Brian McCandliss, an article you read on some website, who put yet another unfounded concept into your head; the willingness by you to accept merely demonstrating the heightened nature of your anti-Americanism.
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:56 AM
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The point is that my source is a Supreme Court decision which you can read for yourself and your source is Brian McCandliss, an article you read on some website, who put yet another unfounded concept into your head; the willingness by you to accept merely demonstrating the heightened nature of your anti-Americanism.
Just as information for those who are wondering who Brian McCanliss is, the Lew Rockwell site gives this: "Brian McCandliss is a business and economics graduate of Liberty University in Lynchburg, VA, a law student, and a businessman in Detroit, Michigan." as of 2004.

He is entitled to his opinion, but those aren't exactly impressive credentials for contradicting a US Supreme Court decision.

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Old 06-24-2008, 05:22 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080621/...d_independence

I wonder if this guy posts here?
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:16 AM
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Here's the link to the Forvik web site.

http://shetlandconversation.squarespace.com/forvik/

Scroll down to the photos at the bottom of the page, and take a look at Forvik's Communications Mast, and Laundry Services.

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The guy has spent far too much time alone. For goodness sakes! If you're going to secede from a country, at least select an island with palm trees, fresh water, wild pigs, fruits and vegetables, and a brewery. Forvik? Gimme a break!

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Last I checked you haven't earned the right to say that to me.
Dont look at the right of free speech under your own constition much i take it, i dont have to earn the right of free speech, its mine by natural right.
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The point is that my source is a Supreme Court decision which you can read for yourself and your source is Brian McCandliss, an article you read on some website, who put yet another unfounded concept into your head; the willingness by you to accept merely demonstrating the heightened nature of your anti-Americanism.
Nope.
The point is the SCOTUS opinion is not an answer the question.

I point out again im not anti american, im anti uniformed ignorant people regardless of nationality.
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Nope.
The point is the SCOTUS opinion is not an answer the question.

I point out again im not anti american, im anti uniformed ignorant people regardless of nationality.
You are wrong on this, Hanny.

cw1865 pointed you to the 1819 McCulloch v. Maryland decision of the US Supreme Court. This established the principle that the Congress does have the ability to pass laws to implement the express powers of the Constitution, and that the states cannot interfere with the exercise of that Federal power.

If that is the question, the Supreme Court has answered it. They are empowered by the Constitution to decide the matter. Your source, Mr. McCandliss, has every right to have an opinion -- but he has no ability to decide the matter.

That is the way it works in the US. If you think something different applies, you are incorrect.

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Dont look at the right of free speech under your own constition much i take it, i dont have to earn the right of free speech, its mine by natural right.
The Constitutional right of free speech only protects speech against government interference, and even in that case it does not protect falsehood, slander or libel.
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