Civil War History - Secession and PoliticsWas it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.
One of the great stumbling blocks experienced by Christians (much less, unbelievers) is accepting that a truly evil man, can, even on the point of death, be saved by accepting Christ and repenting and be saved, even as another who lived a Christian life through a whole lifetime. In human terms, that is seen as unfair; even unjust.
Gosh, Opn, did you descend from Mrs. Brekke? That particular bone stuck in my craw as well. I can live my entire sinning life and do major bad things until the hour of my death when I can plead out of the sentence? Irrational!
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
Always remembering, that a death bed conversion (as in All conversions, at Any time in ones life) has to be sincere i.e., not just an attempt to cover all bases, just incase all that religious fol de rol, might turn out to be true. We human beings cannot judge any other person's sincerity, but God surely will.
P.S. Concerning the CW, as in all human activities, God is often invoked on all sides and Lincoln was not the first (or last) who noted that Most people do not like to be reminded that God's Will and theirs might not be in agreement..
In the North, the Churches turned away from the Biblical faith of their Puritan ancestors. In the South, there was the Church's failure to effectively deal with the evils attended with slavery. They also began to judge people's Christianity by people's stance on slavery, not by the Scriptures.
In the North, the Churches turned away from the Biblical faith of their Puritan ancestors.
I'm not entirely what you're suggesting here. Maybe nothing. I will say I think the northern backdrop of religious change was staggering in the 18th and 19th centuries, and it stands out when compared against the incremental religious changes in the frontier South.
Puritanism as we know it was entirely gone 100 years before the Civil War, replaced by more moderate forms of Congregationalism. However, even stodgy Massachusetts was swept away by the enthusiasm of the First and Second Great Awakenings, providing a flurry of religious variety. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Quakers, Mennonites, Shakers, Unitarians, and by 1850 a significant population of Catholics, were all being stirred together in the north - probably due to European immigration in northern ports. Many people forget the Mormons had their roots in upstate New York, and the smaller experimental groups, like the Transcendentalists, lived and died in the north.
By contrast, the South carried more typically Calvinistic growth with the exception of New Orleans which was a haven for French Catholics.
I think the north had some dramatic religious spurs and experimentation of ideas prior to the Civil War, while the South had more religious stability even if there was significant growth - especially with Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians.
Gosh, Opn, did you descend from Mrs. Brekke? That particular bone stuck in my craw as well. I can live my entire sinning life and do major bad things until the hour of my death when I can plead out of the sentence? Irrational!
ole
Ole, nice thought, but on what particular day do you make that choice--just before that semi plows into your
car and in the emergency room following a heart-attack.
How many people have made that mistake? There is a day appointed for a man to die, but you and I don't know what day it is. Be like a good Boy Scout.
BE PREPARED!!
Basically, the North as a whole rejected the Scriptures and took hold of heresies such as transcendentalism, diesm, etc.
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Originally Posted by jpeter
I'm not entirely what you're suggesting here. Maybe nothing. I will say I think the northern backdrop of religious change was staggering in the 18th and 19th centuries, and it stands out when compared against the incremental religious changes in the frontier South.
Puritanism as we know it was entirely gone 100 years before the Civil War, replaced by more moderate forms of Congregationalism. However, even stodgy Massachusetts was swept away by the enthusiasm of the First and Second Great Awakenings, providing a flurry of religious variety. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Quakers, Mennonites, Shakers, Unitarians, and by 1850 a significant population of Catholics, were all being stirred together in the north - probably due to European immigration in northern ports. Many people forget the Mormons had their roots in upstate New York, and the smaller experimental groups, like the Transcendentalists, lived and died in the north.
By contrast, the South carried more typically Calvinistic growth with the exception of New Orleans which was a haven for French Catholics.
I think the north had some dramatic religious spurs and experimentation of ideas prior to the Civil War, while the South had more religious stability even if there was significant growth - especially with Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians.
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