Civil War History - Secession and PoliticsWas it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.
Whoa! Wild site, Sam. Great posters! A good read. With few exceptions, I thought I was in the middle of a Mensa/Pulitzer convention.
For the title statement, if the South had better intelligence, there would have been no Civil War.
Ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
It is usually easier to find out What most Senators (OR Congressmen, for that matter) Do know about anything important, rather than what they Do Not know. It tends to make the search shorter.
better intelligence and military intelligence they wouldn't have started the war.
Chambliss is from Georgia and so was the "Civil War historian expert", Gingrich.
Maybe they should review the book of a greater Georgian, Margaret Mitchell, and see what Rhett Butler had to say about the superiority of northern industry.
There were only 3 ways the South could have won the Civil War.
1. 30 years of guerrilla warfare.
2. Immediate attack by both armies of Virginia on Harper's Ferry; followup attacks on Baltimore by Jackson and Johnson on Harrisburg with the destruction of Fremont's army between them; rapid seizure of Philadelphia by Johnston and move against Charleston VW by Jackson, with a small force under Beauregard in Richmond (this force would move against Washington if the AoP left there; seizure of Pittsburg, Columbus by Johnston; converging attack on Cincinnati by both; meanwhile AS Johnston holds fortified Chattanooga and Pemberton same in Memphis to block Buell and the Western armies, with small forces in New Orleans, Charleston SC and Norfolk to prevent sea invasions;
combined armies of Johnston and Jackson seize Louisville and then Paducah, isolating Buell facing Johnston in Chattanooga; Jackson moves on StLouis while JE Johnston moves on Indianapolis and Springfield; if Buell tries to move, AS Johnston attacks Nashville; Jackson, JE Johnson, AS Johnston converge to attack Buell in Kentucky or northern Tennessee; with defeat of Buell Union resistance collapses and Washington is starved into surrender.
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
There were only 3 ways the South could have won the Civil War.
1. 30 years of guerrilla warfare.
2. Immediate attack by both armies of Virginia on Harper's Ferry; followup attacks on Baltimore by Jackson and Johnson on Harrisburg with the destruction of Fremont's army between them; rapid seizure of Philadelphia by Johnston and move against Charleston VW by Jackson, with a small force under Beauregard in Richmond (this force would move against Washington if the AoP left there; seizure of Pittsburg, Columbus by Johnston; converging attack on Cincinnati by both; meanwhile AS Johnston holds fortified Chattanooga and Pemberton same in Memphis to block Buell and the Western armies, with small forces in New Orleans, Charleston SC and Norfolk to prevent sea invasions;
combined armies of Johnston and Jackson seize Louisville and then Paducah, isolating Buell facing Johnston in Chattanooga; Jackson moves on StLouis while JE Johnston moves on Indianapolis and Springfield; if Buell tries to move, AS Johnston attacks Nashville; Jackson, JE Johnson, AS Johnston converge to attack Buell in Kentucky or northern Tennessee; with defeat of Buell Union resistance collapses and Washington is starved into surrender.
3. wait 140 years.
Brilliant! have another Guinness.
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Well what a bunch of ****! I do have to say I am impressed that the Northern responders knew as much as they did because some of that is not in the Textbooks.
As for the "we", the Senator is from the South, if you look back in his family history "they" probably fought for the South. Georgia certainly fought for the South. I am always amazed that anyone begrudges "us" our heritage - right wrong or otherwise.
I have a friend from Nebraska who calls the Civil War Union Army "Yankees" but doen't include herself because "they" (Nebraska) weren't even a territory when the ACW broke out.
A 140 years and still waiting for something more than a snappy comeback.
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
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