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Civil War History - Secession and Politics Was it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.

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Old 01-07-2007, 11:12 AM
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<<<<This is a statue that honors our Texas ancestors. These statues are not depicting racism or supporting slavery, these statues are we descendants trying to honor our ancestors. >>>>

From what I can tell in reading the various articles, it's the statues of Lee and Jeff Davis that are causing strife. These guys are Texas ancestors? I see no mention of a statue of a Confederate soldier from a Texas regiment.

Do Bobby and Jeff have a place on the UT campus? Probably about as much as they do on the BSU campus! (How 'bout them Broncos???)

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Old 01-07-2007, 11:15 AM
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Did a 'find' on the word "civil" and got 5 results. 4 were for "Civil Rights", 1 was for "Civil War".
Now Sam, did you search on "War of Northern Aggression" or "War Between the States??"
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:55 PM
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Now Sam, did you search on "War of Northern Aggression" or "War Between the States??"
I knew you'd do some follow-up reseach on that Zou.

Thanks, and let us know your findings!
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:18 PM
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These guys are Texas ancestors?
Excellent observation, Zou. They are Confederate icons and, as such, their presence at UT is, in effect, honoring the Confederacy. They might better be replaced by Sam Houston, Davy Crockett or some other uniquely Texas hero. But is not Texas entitled to memorialize one of the six flags that flew over it?

I don't much care what statuary is where. What I resent is a group that objects for no other than politically correct revisionist reasons, to someone else's idea of honor. I would object as much if the SCV wanted to add N.B. Forrest to the UT shrine. Leave it alone.
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:29 PM
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N.B. Forrest would do Texas proud. Besides, he may, after a helluva politcal fight, need to move from Memphis. Lots of Tennesseans "went to Texas" for various reasons. The history of the Confederacy must stand the test of time or we will lose a few monuments to political correctness, probably for all the wrong reasons. This country can't seem to leave the past alone. Cape Canaveral was doing fine until the Kennedy woshipers showed up and changed the name. Robert E. Lee was a great man for many different reasons. I suspect the people of Texas know that. Davis, like the other symbols will just have to take their best shots.
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:50 PM
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Just a question I would like to pose: If this were say, Lincoln or Grant, would ya'll feel diffrent?
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:00 PM
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Nope.
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Ditto on Ole's response,

If UT wants to remove the statues, then let UT tend to UT's business. If they don't want Lincoln or Grant, that's their choice too.

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Old 01-07-2007, 10:33 PM
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Ditto on Ole's response,

If UT wants to remove the statues, then let UT tend to UT's business. If they don't want Lincoln or Grant, that's their choice too.

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Perhaps if the did add Lincoln and Grant statues that would resolve the controversy? No, somebody has always got to have a gripe.
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First I would like to appologize for being out of touch this weekend and not replying to your comments.

Second, thank you all for your comments. I have heard alot of comments this past week and a bunch of questions, I will address them one at a time...Its easier for me.

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