Civil War History - Secession and PoliticsWas it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.
No that was your claim, my claim was that there extreme concern over new states entry with its 2 sentate votes, which was why slsveand free came in to mainatin equal voting, and why LA Texdas alsmost cause secesion, and why NWT and SWT were so problamticlal becuase of the number of new slave or free states that could be joining the union. Which gre out of the major concern in 1798 over how to protect teh equal representaion of states in teh senate and to prevent at will subdivison of states to make new one for political gain.
Well, you've rambled on, making no sense, and have taken this off someplace of your own choosing. I can't tell what you are talking about, between the misspellings, the tangents, the refusal to answer directly, and the rest. As far as I can tell, you're talking to yourself and none of this has anything to do with what I post. Have a nice day.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
Well, you've rambled on, making no sense, and have taken this off someplace of your own choosing. I can't tell what you are talking about, between the misspellings, the tangents, the refusal to answer directly, and the rest. As far as I can tell, you're talking to yourself and none of this has anything to do with what I post. Have a nice day.
Tim
And i have the problem with your inability to post anything that resembles US history.
__________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759
When it comes to US history, I'll go with Trice in an instant. And I'll further be confused with him in what the heck are we talking about? The Constitution said two senators per state; there was no guarantee beyond that about balancing the senate vote among slave or free states. Only Texas had the opportunity to subdivide. Once in the Union, no state could divide itself.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
When it comes to US history, I'll go with Trice in an instant. And I'll further be confused with him in what the heck are we talking about? The Constitution said two senators per state; there was no guarantee beyond that about balancing the senate vote among slave or free states. Only Texas had the opportunity to subdivide. Once in the Union, no state could divide itself.
ole
First Warning. You may get two; you may get three, but there will be an end to it. ole
__________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Rubbish, explain Main or West Va then, oh and btw twoo retards agreeing they are not does not makle them any less retarded.
Maine (note the spelling) had been seeking statehood since before the War of 1812. Coastal merchant towns in the Maine District generally opposed this, but switched to supporting the drive for statehood after British raids during the War of 1812 convinced them they needed to separate from Massachusetts to have a greater voice in their own affairs. The Massachusetts legislature finally agreed to the separation in 1819, following which the US Congress gave their permission for Maine to become a state as part of the Missouri Compromise.
West Virginia entered as a state in 1863. The separation was recognized by the "Restored Government of Virginia", which had been formed by the Second Wheeling Convention of June 1861. It was, of course, the Unionist government of a Virginia deeply divided in rebellion -- but it did permit West Virginia to separate. Some people did question the constitutionality of this statehood, and it was mentioned prominently in Congress in the debates over it. But in the end, the "Restored Government of Virginia" became the government of the entire state from 1865-69 and the rebellious Confederate state government was terminated, legitimizing the separation.
There have been other instances of a state allowing a new state to be formed out of their territory. For example, Kentucky was formed out of Virginia territoy, and Tennessee was formed out of North Carolina territory.
Other states were formed by agreement out of territory the original 13 colonies claimed in the 1780s, states like Ohio, Illinois, and Indiana. Georgia also gave up claims in the area that became Mississippi and Alabama.
In fact, no state can create another state by itself, and the Federal government cannot forcibly take territory from one state to create another. The Congress and the state can, however, co-operate to create a new state as has been done several times.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
"twoo retards agreeing they are not does not makle them any less retarded."
Hanny,
Mature adults can disagree with one another without being obnoxious about it.
Because you read the post as being that, otoh, if you read it as intended, an explantion that two people of the same mind agreeing does not increase the correctness of there opinion, ie its not who or how many claim a thing to be this or that, that make it right or correct,but what they claim, is the measure of what is correct, ie Ole comment of going with Trice is an example of not what its posted being right, but the poster being right, by virtue of who is is,which of course twaddle.
__________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759
First Warning. You may get two; you may get three, but there will be an end to it. ole
No problem. I belive you have no good grounds for doing so, but hey its your job, you do at you see fit, even inventing the number of warnings, perhaps that should be mentioned in teh board rules?.
__________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759
There are no specific number of warnings specified. If I had forwarded that post to the webmasters, you would no longer be here. No warning; no nothing. Erased.
I prefer to have you around with a more civil attitude towards those who disagree with you.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
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