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Civil War History - Secession and Politics Was it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.

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Old 12-09-2005, 01:37 PM
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Hal,
Vermont secession is a publicity stunt for the causes these people espouse.
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Vermont secession is a publicity stunt for the causes these people espouse.
You beat me to it, Matthew.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:21 AM
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Besides,

How many citizens of the State of Vermont are calling for secession, as of this moment? 100? 200? 300?

Should a minority, a very small minority, have their wish granted and the rest of the citizens wishes be ignored or not considered?

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Does anyone take this seriously?
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Vermont secession is a publicity stunt for the causes these people espouse.
I'm sure it is.

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Should a minority, a very small minority, have their wish granted and the rest of the citizens wishes be ignored or not considered?

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Should they?

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Old 12-14-2005, 09:03 PM
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Hal,

A question for a question?

Shirley, you're not out of answers?

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Over at "Mode for Caleb" Prof. Caleb McDaniel has an interesting essay on the abolitionists use of at least the rhetoric of secession as a way to deal with slavery. He argues they were influenced by the Irish nationalist revivial going on at the same time(1830s).
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:29 AM
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Shirley, you're not out of answers?

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Neil, I'm following your lead.

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Old 12-15-2005, 08:41 PM
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Hal,

Well, that's a first!

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