Civil War History - Secession and PoliticsWas it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.
Sorry for the XX posting. I didn't see your first one.
Re: your reply "shall we discuss..."
I'm not really sure what you're intending to prove regarding CS soldiers vs, USCT's? No quarter was the norm & not an exception, perhaps? Are you saying ALL CSA troops hated & killed ALL blacks who they fought or who surrendred?? You once said that the Indian wars didn't kill off all Native Americans due to Native Americans being present today. May I suggest the same for black people post-civil war & now. ALL must not have been killed by angry CS troops as black people are among us today.
Now...."it wasn't "isolated." Do you wish to start a war of wills or is this cleared up? I WILL NOT BACK DOWN on my humble opinion of whether CS soldier atrocities were isolated or 'the norm.' Now, what is your point, please sir?
I would like to see the true nature of the post discussed; The Avengment of S.C....." May we please begin again? Slavery and it's various evils, invading EVERY post like a Staph infection upon a compromised host, is causing CWT to become a very (insert great big YAWN here) monotonous disussion board. Believe you me, if I could change what happened, I would. Slavery, in my opinion and in many poples opinions, was not the central cause of the WBTS. Please take this with a spirit of good will, as I usually intend, when dicussing the WBTS with you.
Now...."it wasn't "isolated." Do you wish to start a war of wills or is this cleared up? I WILL NOT BACK DOWN on my humble opinion of whether CS soldier atrocities were isolated or 'the norm.' Now, what is your point, please sir?
That Fort Pillow was not an isolated incident of atrocity.
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I would like to see the true nature of the post discussed; The Avengment of S.C....." May we please begin again?
You're the one who brought Fort Pillow into this thread. It seems you're the one who has problems staying on track. I only responded to what you wrote. So you bring up something, are proven wrong, then whine about it not being on topic?
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Slavery, in my opinion and in many poples opinions, was not the central cause of the WBTS.
Which is why so much of what you and many other "poples" write can be so easily refuted with actual history--because slavery was indeed the central cause of the Civil War, because it permeated every aspect of the war, and because to deny either is ahistorical.
"No respected historian has argued for decades that the Civil War was fought over tariffs, that abolitionists were merely hypocrites, or that only constitutional concerns drove secession." [Edward Ayers, 18 Oct 05 presentation on "The Causes of the Civil War"]
Yes I brought Fort Pillow up. BUT...only to make a point that SLAVERY, your favourite topic as a discussion on this thread, IS NOT WANTED! Respectfully submitted, of course.
Now wait just a minute...Rob Adams only "whines" about his ever increasing number of health issues ;-), not SLAVERY or USCT's being murdered by CS troops!
OK..."PEOPLE" not "poples"! I'm glad if you have great eyesight, but I don't, Cash. You and Braxton Bragg would have made good friends. :-)
Why do you always summarily dismiss ALL opinions differing from yours? And then place some 'Prof' as your solid rock of authority? Anyone can read and interpret WBTS history, as well as your monotenous supply of 'professional historians.' You are not the god of history, Cash. Just because important History Profs. taught you History, doesn't mean you absorbed everything regarding WBTS history. You could teach much to lots of us but your attitude forbids one from desiring to learn from you! You would do much better without the 'I'm more inteligent than thou' attitude!
May we please carry on the dicussion..."the Avengement of...." discussion and leave out the other UNWANTED STUFF!
Not that I agree with Alabaman on his views of the war, etc., but it was not he who first introduced "Fort Pillow" into this thread.
It appears that it was you, in post #75, from Oct. 13.
Am I mistaken?
You are right, over a month ago, in direct response to Dawna's question, "Could you please show me anything that remotely compares to the death and devastation that was inflicted upon people in the Shenandoah Valley, or the innocent civilians of South Carolina and Georgia?" I said Fort Pillow was worse. I will point out that was the extent of my comment on it at the time, that it was indeed over a month ago, and over 300 posts have come and gone since then without it coming up on this thread. I believe my use of it was proper, as it was in answer to a question posed to me. In contrast, it had nothing to do with the discussion when Rob brought it up yesterday.
My apologies to Rob for saying he was the one who first brought Fort Pillow into this thread, but my point that his bringing it up had nothing to do with the conversation at hand stands.
Yes I brought Fort Pillow up. BUT...only to make a point that SLAVERY, your favourite topic as a discussion on this thread, IS NOT WANTED! Respectfully submitted, of course.
As a quick glance at the thread shows, your statement is incorrect. I haven't reviewed every post in the thread, but what I reviewed shows I responded to others who talked about slavery. This doesn't mean I didn't begin any conversation in this thread with slavery, just that others appear to want to use it as part of this discussion as well.
Oh, and by the way, I don't live my life or conduct my discussions based on what you want. Thanks for your concern, though.
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OK..."PEOPLE" not "poples"! I'm glad if you have great eyesight, but I don't, Cash. You and Braxton Bragg would have made good friends. :-)
Just having a little fun with you.
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Why do you always summarily dismiss ALL opinions differing from yours?
Only the ones that are clearly wrong.
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And then place some 'Prof' as your solid rock of authority?
He has been brought up by another poster as one of their solid rocks of authority. You don't appreciate the irony?
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Anyone can read and interpret WBTS history, as well as your monotenous supply of 'professional historians.'
In regards to the "who brought up Fort Pillow" frst matter. I appreciate your apology and of course forgive you. No problem what-so-ever. Where we come from, we are men!
Now, my CWT pard...lets please resort to some common courtesy and respect for ALL opinions. The Board would greatly improve if this is carried out in good faith.
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