Civil War History - Secession and PoliticsWas it Slavery, or was it States Rights? Perhaps it was the election of Lincoln? What were the real reasons for Southern Secession and what were the political issues in this time of war? Find your answers here in the Secession and Politics Disussion.
OK - trivia time, but I am going to provide part of the answer. What was the first Southern state to vote on Secession, and the time frame. (Do not choose South Carolina, that is not the answer.)
This is a not, no, never thing. Some did conduct what we might call a legal vote. There is no absolute none.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
Well, what's "a vote on secession"? Will a convention do, or does it have to be a referendum, or a popular election of convention delegates? And I assume "a vote on secession" can be a vote in which secession lost.
I was hoping his would bring up and out a discussion on the early days of secession.
I was hoping one of our confederate friendly members would go off on some diatribe about how the average Joe in the south was for secession. In reality, none of the states left it up to the people to decide on secession for all secede then late had the people to reaffirm it. The problem with that process the war was already in gear so how does one think the vote will go...
The question is why did the people follow their state leader path to secession?
Would people today follow their state leaders in a path counter to the will of the federal government to the level of insurrection?
Why did the people chose their state government wishes over the federal government wishes and take up arms?
Think of the propaganda in the years before the war that would a have made the Southern citizen feel oppressed enough to follow an insurrection?
A baffler for us today, many people fought for the confederacy even thou they were against secession. Why not go join the union army instead?
These are troubling questions that have always rumble through my head from time to time......
Off to rummages....
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"States Rights are about States Wrongs" - Jesse Jackson
Am I the first to note that 4fish's space is mostly between his ears? I'll take all that back later, but meanwile I'll hit the "enter" button.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
Am I the first to note that 4fish's space is mostly between his ears? I'll take all that back later, but meanwile I'll hit the "enter" button.
ole
Indeed, 5fish. In a couple of your recent posts, you seem to be trolling and while the posts might not cross the line, then teeter on the edge of it.
Please, can we all, "nothern", "southern", and all those in between, try and keep the discussion civil and avoit trying to bait other members?
We, the moderators, would appreciate it.
__________________ "There must be more historians of the Civil War than there were generals figthing in it... Of the two groups, the historians are the more belligerent." David Donald, Lincoln Reconsidered (1961)
I was hoping his would bring up and out a discussion on the early days of secession.
I was hoping one of our confederate friendly members would go off on some diatribe about how the average Joe in the south was for secession. In reality, none of the states left it up to the people to decide on secession for all secede then late had the people to reaffirm it. The problem with that process the war was already in gear so how does one think the vote will go...
The question is why did the people follow their state leader path to secession?
Would people today follow their state leaders in a path counter to the will of the federal government to the level of insurrection?
Why did the people chose their state government wishes over the federal government wishes and take up arms?
Think of the propaganda in the years before the war that would a have made the Southern citizen feel oppressed enough to follow an insurrection?
A baffler for us today, many people fought for the confederacy even thou they were against secession. Why not go join the union army instead?
These are troubling questions that have always rumble through my head from time to time......
Off to rummages....
Are these not questions that people of today would like to know why our forefathers of the mid-19th century behaved in the manner they did. Academia demands to know the social cause.
For we are man and the boundries of knowledge must always be pushed for truth....
I am so full of it....LOL
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"States Rights are about States Wrongs" - Jesse Jackson
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