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You're the one who is making the claim here, and yet, typically, someone else must do your research for you.
Trice has done plenty of research, and it's good enough for me.
Either post it or own up that you can't.
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
In the overall scheme of the war, it is a flyspeck on the windscreen.
I'd save that to my quotables document, except that you ought to have said windshield. Next thing you'll be giving us boots and bonnets and spanners.
Ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
They list units by the dozens, right down to COUNTIES WITH INDEPENDENT COMPANIES AND MILITIA COMPANIES. But they have no listing for a "Creole Guard" in Mobile County.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
They list units by the dozens, right down to COUNTIES WITH INDEPENDENT COMPANIES AND MILITIA COMPANIES. But they have no listing for a "Creole Guard" in Mobile County.
Tim
Nor in Baldwin County that adjoins. I can find vague references to the Creole Guard in Flottes Notes on Mobile history which states that they were in Mobile along with the Southern Guards and Cadet Guards. And in the Alabama Self Defense Force (Militia )site but I don't find them particulary credible.
Nor in Baldwin County that adjoins. I can find vague references to the Creole Guard in Flottes Notes on Mobile history which states that they were in Mobile along with the Southern Guards and Cadet Guards. And in the Alabama Self Defense Force (Militia )site but I don't find them particulary credible.
I have seen enough references in various places to be fairly certain they were based on one of the fire companies in Mobile; most of those went into what was called the "Mobile Fire Battalion" or "Mobile Fire Brigade", which eventualy became the core of the 24th Alabama Infantry. The 24th left Mobile for Corinth in April 1862, long before the Creole Guards were accepted by the Mississippi legislature as home guards.
The "Creole Guard" apparently included the same people who were to form the regiment of creoles in G. Huggins Cleveland's letter of 4/23/1862 to the Confederate War Department (who politely refused). But in the course of various attempts to research this, I have come across only one instance where someone seemed to know of a task they were assigned (and I was never able to verify that one elsewhere). Apparently they were used as guards at some warehouses in Mobile at some point, if true, which would be a likely home guard task.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
Agree. Flottes states that the Creole Guards were accepted into service for safe guarding Mobile by the State Legislature. IMO that would make them a State Guard/Home Guard type unit.
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