LEE'S - Last Chance to Save a Nation.

[cash]

Originally Posted by 5fish

Lee was fed up with Pres. Davis's handling of the war

Where do you get this?

Lee said specifically that nobody could have done a better job than Davis.

Originally Posted by 5fish

He would have not march the army to Richmond.

Oh, yes he would. He would never have stood for a coup d'etat because it would be an illegal, unconstitutional act.

Regards,
Csah

[OpnDownfall]

Lee would not sacrifice himself for the csa, why would he have sacrificed his honor (and possibly, even more importantly) his place in history for it? IMO, he would not.

[5fish]

Originally Posted by cash

Where do you get this?

Lee said specifically that nobody could have done a better job than Davis.




Oh, yes he would. He would never have stood for a coup d'etat because it would be an illegal, unconstitutional act.

Regards,
Csah

Question: Is not taking up arms against our government an illegal and unconstutional act?

And Old Marse Lee did that, did he not!


Just a note of refernce for you about lee and doing illegal acts.

[cash]

Originally Posted by 5fish

Question: Is not taking up arms against our government an illegal and unconstutional act?

And Old Marse Lee did that, did he not!


Just a note of refernce for you about lee and doing illegal acts.

Lee believed that Virginia's seceding and joining the confederacy took Virginia and him out of the Union, so he believed his actions to be legal.

Whether he was right or wrong is a different question. coup d'etat wouldn't have had any ambiguity at all.

Regards,
Cash

[samgrant]

Originally Posted by OpnDownfall

Lee would not sacrifice himself for the csa, why would he have sacrificed his honor (and possibly, even more importantly) his place in history for it? IMO, he would not.

When you say "Lee would not sacrifice himself for the csa", are you referring to his surrender at Appomattox, his refusal to send troops west (to Vicksburg), or the contention (addressed on another thread in here somewhere, I believe) that his loyalty was not to the CSA, but to the Commonwealth of Virginia, or something else altogether?

[OpnDownfall]

All of the above actually, But in my post, I was referring specifically, to his First loyalty being to Va. and his Va. Ancestors.

[5fish]

Originally Posted by cash

Where do you get this?

Lee said specifically that nobody could have done a better job than Davis.

Regards,
Csah

Cashie!

Lee never says "a discouraging word about anyone". Read his official reports, he never writes anything bad about anybody. Lee seems to truly believe "if you can't say something good about someone then don't say anything."

Read about those months leading up to that faithful days at Gettysburg and you will see Lee was completely frustrated with Pres. Davis and his mismanagement of the war.

I still believe someone should have lead a coup-da-tat and oust Pres Davis from office. He brought "Oblivion" to the southern cause.

[tackitt27]

Just a couple questions on Vicksburg if I may. I for one dont think saving Vicksburg would have saved the war for the South, and there is no way to get a significant amount of troops to do so very quickly. My questions are this: Was there actually a idea to send Longstreet to Mississippi, and who's idea was it? Also to what significance was the defeat at Vicksburg? I know there were plenty of cannon on the hills surrounding there to keep Northern ships getting to New Orleans. What was the North needing to ship from say St. Louis to New Orleans that was so important?

[whitworth]

Well Lee didn't speak very highly of the Confederate deserters, late in the war, and those giving them aid and comfort at home.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by tackitt27

Just a couple questions on Vicksburg if I may. I for one dont think saving Vicksburg would have saved the war for the South, and there is no way to get a significant amount of troops to do so very quickly. My questions are this: Was there actually a idea to send Longstreet to Mississippi, and who's idea was it? Also to what significance was the defeat at Vicksburg? I know there were plenty of cannon on the hills surrounding there to keep Northern ships getting to New Orleans. What was the North needing to ship from say St. Louis to New Orleans that was so important?

Controlling the Mississippi River kept cotton and other goods from Texas and Arkansas out of the war effort. More than 27,000 soldiers, whom the South could not replace, surrendered at Vicksburg on July 4, 1863. I am not sure how important the control of the river meant to the North's economy in 1863.