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Old 10-29-2007, 10:20 PM
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The list of non-notables of generals shows that Jackson went against a B-list of generals.
Doesn't change the fact that Jackson was an "A" list general. Who did Sheridan beat? The only reason Early is well known is he was a Virginian in the ANV. He screwed things up royally at Gettysburg. At Five Forks the confederate generals were at a shad bake.

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Banks was sent to New Orleans a back water of the war,
No, in fact New Orleans was an important posting, especially since clearing the Mississippi to the North of New Orleans was a major military objective.


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Mcdowell end up in CA.
California wasn't important? He got there in 1864, not in 1862.

McDowell was breveted a major general in the regular army due to his actions at Cedar Mountain.


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Fremiont was sent home never to get a command again,
Not as a result of this action, but rather as a result of insubordination against Lincoln.


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Shield's resigns,
The only person to inflict a tactical defeat on Jackson.

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Milroy survived tell the end of the war.

The point is Jackson campaign was impressive and accomplished it's goal but shows the union had a whole bunch of B-rated leaders to start the war with.
The campaign was brilliant. 17,000 men against over 60,000, coming out victoriously. That's a great feat.

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Old 10-30-2007, 10:16 PM
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The list of non-notables of generals shows that Jackson went against a B-list of generals. Banks was sent to New Orleans a back water of the war, Mcdowell end up in CA. Fremiont was sent home never to get a command again, Shield's resigns, Milroy survived tell the end of the war.

The point is Jackson campaign was impressive and accomplished it's goal but shows the union had a whole bunch of B-rated leaders to start the war with.

Notice at the beginning of the war the confederate Generals became household names but by the end of the war it was the union Generals becoming household names. Winners get the headlines!
Actually Little Phil is one of my favorite Generals and I admire him greatly but are you not forgetting a couple of things? Routed at Chickamuaga and wooped by Wade Hampton at Trevailen Station? Everyone has their warts. And he just barely got the best of Early.

Generally Sheridan performed well just as Jackson did and Jacksons Valley campaign is a military masterpiece regardless of his opposing generals.

However that said IMO Sheridan was more my kind of General than Ol' Tom.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:41 AM
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Actually Little Phil is one of my favorite Generals and I admire him greatly but are you not forgetting a couple of things? Routed at Chickamuaga and wooped by Wade Hampton at Trevailen Station? Everyone has their warts. And he just barely got the best of Early.

Generally Sheridan performed well just as Jackson did and Jacksons Valley campaign is a military masterpiece regardless of his opposing generals.

However that said IMO Sheridan was more my kind of General than Ol' Tom.

Hey, but he caught Grant's eye at Chattanooga and at Trevailen Station he remember he had to catch Grant before he crossed the James (LOL).

Like you said, everyone has their warts.



This is to CASH; On matter how you cut it those generals that faced Jackson are on anyone's B-List or less.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:32 PM
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On matter how you cut it those generals that faced Jackson are on anyone's B-List or less.
The generals who faced Lee, until Grant, were on the "B" list also. The generals Grant faced in the West were on the "B" or less list.

It doesn't diminish the genius of the "A" general facing them.

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