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There is a date that has gone unrecognized by historians which is surprising. Historians love to say "on this date something began or something ended" and this date gets no love.
THE DATE IS: JULY 4, 1863
On this date two great events came to a climax which brought the rebirth of our nation.
Vicksburg surrender to Gen. U.S. Grant an effectively cut the confederacy in half and brought the Mississippi back under union control.
Gen. Lee starts his famous retreat from Gettysburg which was the beginning of the end of the AoNV.
Those two events marked the beginning of the end of the confederacy and the rebellion which it was leading.
Those two events mark the rebirth of our nation from the dark clouds of rebellion.
Is it not ironic: The fall of the confederacy and their rebellion happens to be our nation birthday that is true justice.
In Nov. 19, 1863 Pres. Lincoln gives his Gettysburg Address which redefines our nation aspiration which still live on til today.
There's more too that date than you might recognize friend. July of 1763 is generally accepted as the beginning of the American Revolution. It marks the end of the French and Indian War / Seven Year's War (Europe) and the Royal Proclomation of 1763 stuck in the craw of every able minded American be he of British, Fench or Spanish ancestery.
On a more personal level, 1963 is the year of my birth. LOL
Last edited by Ozark Iron John : 10-04-2007 at 10:47 AM.
There is a date that has gone unrecognized by historians which is surprising. Historians love to say "on this date something began or something ended" and this date gets no love.
THE DATE IS: JULY 4, 1863
On this date two great events came to a climax which brought the rebirth of our nation.
Vicksburg surrender to Gen. U.S. Grant an effectively cut the confederacy in half and brought the Mississippi back under union control.
Gen. Lee starts his famous retreat from Gettysburg which was the beginning of the end of the AoNV.
Those two events marked the beginning of the end of the confederacy and the rebellion which it was leading.
Those two events mark the rebirth of our nation from the dark clouds of rebellion.
Is it not ironic: The fall of the confederacy and their rebellion happens to be our nation birthday that is true justice.
In Nov. 19, 1863 Pres. Lincoln gives his Gettysburg Address which redefines our nation aspiration which still live on til today.
Yeah I don't know what you've studied or read about Vicksburg and G'Burg. But in many of the period accounts that point his made and made again by Union Soliders.
It was made by the citizens of Vicksburg who did not have a community July 4TH Celebration until sometime in the 1940's.
I'd say Lincolns "With Malice toward none." speech at the end of the war was more redefining than the G'Burg Address IMO.
"Dark Clouds of rebellion" Nice flowery prose. Some day you might try observing the war from a historical perspective rather than a sectional one.
That is my point the date has past into history. I have never seen any history books give this date the importance it deserves. Maybe at one time that date was given some respect by those who participated in those two events as you have pointed out.
Historians in the general history of the civil war never put great importance on this date even thou it is a mile stone in history.
What is this historical -vs- sectional views mean? I do not completely understand your commit there.
Just look at this thread it not getting any love just like that date in history...only two replies!
That is my point the date has past into history. I have never seen any history books give this date the importance it deserves. Maybe at one time that date was given some respect by those who participated in those two events as you have pointed out.
Historians in the general history of the civil war never put great importance on this date even thou it is a mile stone in history.
What is this historical -vs- sectional views mean? I do not completely understand your commit there.
Just look at this thread it not getting any love just like that date in history...only two replies!
Could because it was just the beginning of the end, not the end. The war would go on for two more b;oody years.
Historical vs sectional. Means you need to detach yourself and look at the totality of the information.
This is an older post but it is that time of year. July 4th is just around the corner. The birthday of our great nation we all adore...
This date in 1863 was a rebirth of our nation as the rebellion lost two mighty contest urshering in the final days of the rebellion and the saving of the union.
In the world of horror and Scifi it would be called the.....
Respawning of our great nation from the ashes of the failed rebellion....
The United States of America respawned on July 4, 1863....
Have a grand 4th...
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Here is what my great grandfather had to say on this day in 1863 while at Vicksburg.
July 4th. Our glorious Fourth. It is doubtless to most of our nation a sad and mournful day. Our country still in the midst of a sad Civil War and which for two years has been almost seemingly fruitless. To human view final victory and success are yet afar off. This I feel this morning, but now later in the day with Vicksburg captured it seems as though the day when we can take up our homeward march with the rebellion crushed is drawing near. The news had come to us at noon that Vicksburg had surrendered with General Pemberton, 27,000 prisoners, 280 guns with small arms and it is difficult to describe the joy with which the news was received in the camp. We had counted upon nothing of note to occur by which we might celebrate the day, but with such news it could scarcely be otherwise than a “glorious Fourth.” Another cheering surprise also greeted us, viz. a mail, our back mail from June 8th. Oh! How joyful was it received-men danced and capered like children, all could now say, “Ain’t this a glorious “Fourth” as letters and papers in abundance were distributed. Received 6 letter and 3 papers, 2 letters from Abby, 1 from Nellie, 1 from O. F. Bryant, 1 from W. H. C., and 1 from L.A.T. A little shadow was cast over our enjoyment of the day as orders came in the afternoon, “ready to march at a moments notice with 6 days rations.” With the capture of Vicksburg before us we could march feeling that we were at last really making progress in crushing the “Rebels” even upon “4th of July.” Marched at 6 o’clock. Left our campground literally covered with newspapers the product of the day’s mail, which we were obliged to leave behind unread. Made 5 miles dust awful were completely grimed with it and sweat and looked more like walking meal bags than soldiers in blue. Bivouacked in a wood. Passed numberless deserted camps recently occupied by Western troops. All seem now to be on the move. Doubtless plans are laid to catch General Johntson and his army. Picked two quarts of blackberries this morning going about two miles from camp. Had a 4th of July dinner of them and pork, hard tacks and tea. Believe this to be the first 4th I ever spent away from home. Had many imaginings as to how my folks were spending the day.
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