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The rolling hills of Virginia and the rolling hills of PA are just about the same altitude. The only places it gets any different is South Mountian pass and other passes like it that touch at just about 1000 feet. He didn't spend any significant amount of time in the passes.. just as long as it takes to get through. And still.. even 1000 feet won't have any adverse affects even with a heart condition. You think people who have had heart attacks don't live in the mountains or visit them?
As far as Longstreet pouting... You really think its pouting when he knows his corps is being sent to its death and there is nothing he can do about it? Sending your troops to battle is hard enough when you have a chance of succeeding.. but when you know it own't work and you just have to watch the slaughter... that's not pouting.
__________________ "In mortal combat, a man may and will become so infuriated by the din and dangers of a bloody fight that his heart will turn to stone and his every de sire [be] for blood."
John Hadley, 7th Indiana after the battle at Port Republic
I have heard this argument before I don't except it for Gen. Lee have to not respect his foe. Gen. Lee never gave the indication he had lost any respect for the AoP.
Believing your army is invinicible does not mean you do not have respect for the opposing army. He had every reason to think he would be victorious and that the AoP would do what it always did and give up the ghost easily. It had worked for him so far.
__________________ "In mortal combat, a man may and will become so infuriated by the din and dangers of a bloody fight that his heart will turn to stone and his every de sire [be] for blood."
John Hadley, 7th Indiana after the battle at Port Republic
It is interesting to note that after Gettysburg, neither Lee or Meade could overcome the other, even after Longstreet and his Corps was belatedly sent West.
I believe Gen. Meade just did not take the fight to Gen. Lee. Gen Meade may have become the hero of the republic if he had been pugnacious.
I believe Gen. Meade just did not take the fight to Gen. Lee. Gen Meade may have become the hero of the republic if he had been pugnacious.
He could have attacked and probably been succesful, especially a counter attack after the third day. But on the first day, once he realized Lee feelt obliged to attack, he figured why bother. All he had to do was sit back and wait. It begs the question, at what point did Meade decide to defend? What came first, the chicken or the egg? What happened first? Did Lee attack or did Meade defend? (does that make any sense to anybody besides me??)
__________________ "In mortal combat, a man may and will become so infuriated by the din and dangers of a bloody fight that his heart will turn to stone and his every de sire [be] for blood."
John Hadley, 7th Indiana after the battle at Port Republic
The rolling hills of Virginia and the rolling hills of PA are just about the same altitude. The only places it gets any different is South Mountian pass and other passes like it that touch at just about 1000 feet. He didn't spend any significant amount of time in the passes.. just as long as it takes to get through. And still.. even 1000 feet won't have any adverse affects even with a heart condition. You think people who have had heart attacks don't live in the mountains or visit them?
As far as Longstreet pouting... You really think its pouting when he knows his corps is being sent to its death and there is nothing he can do about it? Sending your troops to battle is hard enough when you have a chance of succeeding.. but when you know it own't work and you just have to watch the slaughter... that's not pouting.
Longstreet brings up the question? If Gen Longstreet could see that Gen. Lee was acting reckless and he was unable to stop it or bring reason to him. This points to Gen. Lee acting out of character forcing Gen Longstreet to act out of character{not being the old war horse)
What is causing Gen. Lee to act out of character, or act reckless? Remember, Gen Lee takes great pride in his ability to maintain self control. Something has cause him to loss his self control.
sea level to a few hundred or more feet above sea level.
Looked it up quickly on wiki, Gettysburg ranges from about 420 ft. to 503 feet. I've never heard of anybody being affected by 503 feet. First I've ever heard of it...what do people in Gettysburg and in higher elevations do when they have a heart attack? Or is it just if you're accustomed to life at sea level to begin with?
He could have attacked and probably been succesful, especially a counter attack after the third day. But on the first day, once he realized Lee feelt obliged to attack, he figured why bother. All he had to do was sit back and wait. It begs the question, at what point did Meade decide to defend? What came first, the chicken or the egg? What happened first? Did Lee attack or did Meade defend? (does that make any sense to anybody besides me??)
As I know it Gen Meade wanted to pulled back away from Gettysburg but Hancock and the other junior officers wanted to stay. Gen. Meade went along with their desire and it gave him the win!
As I know it Gen Meade wanted to pulled back away from Gettysburg but Hancock and the other junior officers wanted to stay. Gen. Meade went along with their desire and it gave him the win!
You've been reading Sickles again, haven't you?
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__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
When Gen Meade was awaken at night and told he was now the commander of AoP, his first thought he was being arrested. My question why would he think that, was he doing something he not supposed to be doing or had Pres. Lincoln assault on personal liberties begin to cause paranoia among the Americans.
Looked it up quickly on wiki, Gettysburg ranges from about 420 ft. to 503 feet. I've never heard of anybody being affected by 503 feet. First I've ever heard of it...what do people in Gettysburg and in higher elevations do when they have a heart attack? Or is it just if you're accustomed to life at sea level to begin with?
Maybe the atittude of the area may not have effect his heart but traveling a few hundred miles on horse back would have.
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