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I amazed you would even try to justify slavery in any form no matter how southern one might be. It like saying cigarettes don't cause cancer.
When/where did I justify slavery?
You aren't related to johan_steele...are you?
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"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Lincoln referred to military action against the states (other than Federal property) as invasion-
"The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere." (First Inaugural Address)
..of course, he didn't keep his word.
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Timelines are important. He made that promise during his first inaugural speech on March 4, 1861. The Confederacy opened fire on Ft. Sumter in mid-April.
If I swear to you that I'll remain your loyal and true friend, and six weeks later you slap my wife, do you really expect me to honor that oath? Get real.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
No. No. Samgrant. If my wife needs slapping, that's my job (although I will end up sleeping somewhere she can't reach me with the castiron cooker I love and she hates.) "It's too heavy. I can't lift it." But I do know she'd have the strength to swing it pretty good if I so much as arched my eyebrows at her. And then there's her .357.
I'm beginning to understand Chandra Manning a bit more.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
Ole, is your wife as skilled w/ the deadly ninja throwing skillet as mine? I don't dare ever lay a finger upon her... my father is a far better shot than I and thinks my wife is wonderful... which she is.
THen there is also the knowledge of the real reason southern women like grits so much... irritate them too much and they open the shower, while you're in it, and toss a pot of scalding grits on you. Proof that women are truly evil critters.
Note: my wife has never actually done any of this to me; though the threat is enough to keep me in line.
__________________ Shane Christen
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For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Eccl 1:18
Lincoln referred to military action against the states (other than Federal property) as invasion-
"The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere." (First Inaugural Address)
..of course, he didn't keep his word.
Perhaps an inappropriate choice of words on his part when feeling his way into the Presidency at this most crucial time; or not, but at this point one must acknowledge that his intent was to assure the those in the South that there was no reason to expect that they were to be threatened.
Unfortunately for the South, their better angels were ignored and their devils took charge.
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