The Confederacy was never a Viable Nation

[5fish]

Originally Posted by matthew mckeon

The United States made four attempts to seize Canada, or portions of Canada. 1)The invasion of 1775-6, which ended with the destruction of Benedict Arnold's invading force, 2)the various attempts in the War of 1812, one of which ended with the capture of a young(and persumably slimmer)Winfield Scott, as well as the burning of Washington DC in retaliation to the burning of York, Ontario.
3) A filibustering expedition in the 1830s, which ended with Canadian forces seizing the expedition's steamboat, setting it afire and sending the burning wreck over Niagara Falls, 4) the Fenian invasion of 1866.

So to be fair to 19th century Americans, they tried to conquer Canada several times, just not successfully.

You left out the Pig War of 1859, when the shooting of a pig led to a border dispute in the northwest over the island of San Juan.

George Pickette{Pickette's charge} led some soldiers in taking the island.
William Harney{oversaw the hanging of the San Patricio Battalion) was in charge of the Northwest territory.

In the end, a not so thin Gen. Scott negotiated a compromise with the English.

Hey, we got half an island; but it could have been so much more.

[matthew mckeon]

"Hey, we got half an island; but it could have been so much more."

Or so much less, my friend.

After World War I, the Canadian military developed Defence Scheme No. 1, a detailed plan to invade the United States, seizing and destroying the northern tier of territory, including Seattle, Chicago, Vermont and other places.

As a Mainer, I'm just grateful I was raised under the Stars and Stripes---not the jackboot of a Mountie.

[matthew mckeon]

The creation of Defence Scheme No. 1 saw the infiltration of disguised Canadian officers into our Northernmost cities, observing and recording likely targets. Brrrrrrr.

Actually I have been assured that we would never try to annex Canada since it would mean the addition of millions of voters to the Democratic Party.

[Battalion]

Originally Posted by 5fish

The viability of the confederacy was always in question.

Legally the confederacy never existed for it was never recognized by any other nations of the world and our nation(U.S.A.) always referred to the war as a rebellion...

Even if you exclude the Pope's positive acknowlegement of Jefferson Davis as President of the CSA as Recognition...there is still the Indian Nations.

The various indigenous peoples of America were recognized by the United States as sovereign...hence Indian Nations. These people were not living in mud huts and teepees...they had their own constitutions, governments and courts. The United States and Confederate States entered into numerous treaties with these nations.

[Borderruffian]

Originally Posted by Battalion

Even if you exclude the Pope's positive acknowlegement of Jefferson Davis as President of the CSA as Recognition...there is still the Indian Nations.

The various indigenous peoples of America were recognized by the United States as sovereign...hence Indian Nations. These people were not living in mud huts and teepees...they had their own constitutions, governments and courts. The United States and Confederate States entered into numerous treaties with these nations.

While they are and were sovereign to an extent. The Indian Nations were and are still subject to federal as well as tribal law on the reservations.