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Old 03-30-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Photo Fakery

http://people.virginia.edu/~jh3v/ret...ory/essay.html


"We maintain that this photograph has been deliberately falsified in recent years by an unknown person/s sympathetic to the Confederacy. This falsified or fabricated photo, purporting to be of the 1st Louisiana Native Guards (Confederate), has been taken to promote Neo-Confederate views, to accuse Union propagandists of duplicity, and to show that black soldiers were involved in the armed defense of the Confederacy. As of the date of this website this photograph is being sold on the web by an on-line retailer, www.rebelstore.com, which promotes itself as 'The Internet’s Original Rebel Store,' and advertises this photograph as a legitimate photo of 'Members of the first all Black Confederate Unit organized in New Orleans in 1861.'"

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Old 03-30-2007, 04:03 PM
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That photograph was offered to this board several months ago as proof that there were colored confederate soldiers. Never could figure out why Louisiana soldiers had greatcoats.

Good catch. Thanks.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:26 PM
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Yes, that one is a fake...

...but to claim it a "neo-Confederate conspiracy" is silly.

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This one isn't fake-

http://37thtexas.org/image/blackreb.jpg

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Old 03-30-2007, 07:51 PM
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Yes, that one is a fake...

...but to claim it a "neo-Confederate conspiracy" is silly.

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This one isn't fake-

http://37thtexas.org/image/blackreb.jpg
A white guy who has dressed up his slave for a picture. Big deal.

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Old 03-30-2007, 08:00 PM
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A white guy who has dressed up his slave for a picture. Big deal.

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He wasn't a slave.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:05 PM
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Yes, that one is a fake...

...but to claim it a "neo-Confederate conspiracy" is silly.
Actually IIRC you posted the pic as evidence... Amazing what someone w/ an agenda can do w/ photo shop... just a touch of cropping and viola. And of coarse when they sell copies at $5 or so a piece it's also fraud.

It speaks to the lack of honesty & integrity w/in the Lost Cause movement.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:14 PM
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Yes, that one is a fake...

...but to claim it a "neo-Confederate conspiracy" is silly.

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This one isn't fake-

http://37thtexas.org/image/blackreb.jpg


Ha Ha!

Was that a still from the old Amos and Andy TV show?
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:28 PM
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samgrant, Shane, Cash,

The picture that Battalion showed is authentic, but the idea that this man's slave/bodyservant was a black confederate soldier is wide open to question.

I await documentation to see if that particular black man served in the Confederate army as a soldier, fighting in the ranks with other Southern whites. Not impossible, but exceedingly rare.

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Old 03-30-2007, 08:31 PM
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samgrant, Shane, Cash,

The picture that Battalion showed is authentic, but the idea that this man's slave/bodyservant was a black confederate soldier is wide open to question.

I await documentation to see if that particular black man served in the Confederate army as a soldier, fighting in the ranks with other Southern whites. Not impossible, but exceedingly rare.

Sincerely,
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Neil, I don't know anything about the 37th TX pic; my post was referencing his take on the faked pic of 1st LA NAtive Guards. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:45 PM
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He wasn't a slave.
Yes, he was. It was ILLEGAL for blacks to be in the confederate army at that time.

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