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...but this fake story has been around a lot longer (about 140 years)-
That the entire regiment joined the Federal army-
"Our Colored Troops in Louisiana....
It is now some five months since General Butler's attention was called, by certain free colored men in New Orleans, to the fact that they held commissions from Governor Moore, of Louisiana, as duly enrolled officers of the Confederate army, and requesting to transfer their services to the United States. General Butler, with that keen perception for which he is so remarkable, at once saw the bearings of this important matter, granted the request of his applicants, and issued his order mustering the regiment into our service...."
Harper's Weekly, 28 Feb 1863.
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Not one of those "reputable historians" ever bothered to check the story...just took Ben Butler's word.
...but this fake story has been around a lot longer (about 140 years)-
That the entire regiment joined the Federal army-
"Our Colored Troops in Louisiana....
It is now some five months since General Butler's attention was called, by certain free colored men in New Orleans, to the fact that they held commissions from Governor Moore, of Louisiana, as duly enrolled officers of the Confederate army, and requesting to transfer their services to the United States. General Butler, with that keen perception for which he is so remarkable, at once saw the bearings of this important matter, granted the request of his applicants, and issued his order mustering the regiment into our service...."
Harper's Weekly, 28 Feb 1863.
~~~
Not one of those "reputable historians" ever bothered to check the story...just took Ben Butler's word.
Battalion,
Don't keep us in suspense when you clearly think you know something: speak up. Please say in specific, understandable terms exactly what you think is fake here. I am pretty sure you can do it, and will think it just possible you can do it without using a single "..." as you so often do.
Your above on Ben Butler is not even a 'half a loaf.'
Do you now expect someone else to do 'the rest of the story' for you? Could you please, please, just once, explain a post of yours and why you think it means what you claim?
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Harper's Weekly, 28 Feb 1863.
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Not one of those "reputable historians" ever bothered to check the story...just took Ben Butler's word.
First time I've heard Harper's Weekly and "reputable historians" in the same sentence.
Don't know anyone who takes that seriously.
Ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
One side presents a false picture; the other side can only find fault with the picture and not the fact that the whole body of Civil War history, does not support the use of slaves for Confederate soldiers.
How does a nation, where slavery is written into its own constitution of the right to own slaves, now deem slaves worthy of soldiering for the cause. Ridiculous!
Feb 11th [1865]
"...Wigfall, of Texas, Graham of North Carolina, Orr and Miles, of South Carolina, oppose the employment of negro troops and Gen. Wickham, of this department, openly proclaim such a measure as the end of the Confederacy!"
A Rebel War Clerk's Diary At The Confederate States Capitol. J.B. Jones. 1866.
Of course, the ability to alter a picture, does not make one a knowledgeable student of the Civil War.
In fact, to waste one's time on such work, mean one is surely lacking in a good understanding of what really happened, when the South attempted to secede from the United States.
I suppose the two-book Civil War reader can conjure up a scenario to attempt to fool those of similar knowledge, thinking the plan is capable of succeeding.
The colored picture in the link that originaly started this post came BEFORE the black and white one claiming to be the Native gaurd? But the color picture was actually taken from some other actual photo of union black troops? And now (or back in 2005 last time it as updated) the 37th TX is saying the black and white photo in the link was first and the colored picture is the real forgery?
__________________ "In mortal combat, a man may and will become so infuriated by the din and dangers of a bloody fight that his heart will turn to stone and his every de sire [be] for blood."
John Hadley, 7th Indiana after the battle at Port Republic
Posting the fake photo speaks volumes about 37th Texas Cavalry's readiness to be fooled, but if they were taken in, they wouldn't be the first in the history of mankind.
The lame defense, which comes after both the recruiting poster and original photograph were posted, is something else. What other photographs on that site have been tweaked, cropped or mislabelled?
Maj. Gen. HOWELL COBB:
"...Soldiers are our greatest necessity. What is your opinion as to the practicability and policy of employing negroes as soldiers;..."
James Seddon, [Confederate] Secretary of War
HDQRS. GEORGIA RESERVES AND MIL. DIST. OF GEORGIA,
Macon, Ga., January 8, 1865.
Hon. JAMES A. SEDDON,
Secretary of War, Richmond, Va.:
"...I think that the proposition to make soldiers of our
slaves is the most pernicious idea that has been suggested since the
war began..."
"...You cannot make soldiers of slaves, nor slaves of soldiers. The moment you resort to negro soldiers your white soldiers will be lost to you;...
"...The day you make soldiers of them is the beginning of the end of the revolution. If slaves will make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery is wrong—but they won’t make soldiers."
Howell Cobb
Major General
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"...Why should our race be exposed to suffering and disease, when the African might endure his equal share of it? Is it wise, is it humane, to send your kindred to battle and to death, when you might put the colored man in the ranks and let him bear a part of the conflict between the rebel and his enfranchised slave? Why should these bloody graves be filled with our relatives rather than with the property of traitors slain by their own masters, who, in their turn, would fall by the hands of the oppressed? I have but little respect for the northern man who would save the rebels' property at the expense of the life of white men.
We have heard repeated the usual slang of Democrats, so freely and falsely used by them to prejudice the minds of the people, that Republicans are trying to make the black man equal in all things to the white. The distinguished gentleman from Kentucky and his allies from Ohio have talked of Sambo's commanding white men. Sir, the bill contains no such provisions. They are to be employed only as soldiers or non-commissioned officers as is provided by the original bill....I do not expect to live to see the day when, in this Christian land, merit shall counterbalance the crime ofcolor. True, we propose to give them an equal chance to meet death on the battle-field. But even then their great achievements...would give them no hope of honor. The only place where they can find equality is in the grave. There all God's children are equal...."
Thaddeus Stevens, United States House of Representatives, 2 February 1863
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