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I'm making a distinction between the subsistence farmer with one or two workers (slaves) tending the cows and helping raise the Owner's kids and the boys with perhaps 20,000 acres of cotton or rice who had communities of slaves with a staff of overseers.
In reference to your post 371. The "point" of searching for dark looking faces in blurry photographs is to try to create a legion of black defenders of the Confederacy. The reason this is necessary has been explored on this and other, similar threads.
The reality behind the myth of black confederates is clear for anyone to see.
Except in very, very small numbers, for limited times, in unusual circumstances, blacks did not fight for the CSA. The reasons are obvious (1) the CSA did not want blacks to fight for them. (2) blacks did not want to fight for the CSA.
The photograph of the Army of Northern Virginia on the march is a famous one, frequently published. It does not show a black confederate soldier unless you really, really want to see one.
I understand your distinction between two types of slave owners. However, for the slave himself, which was the more desirable situation? Because I'm writing my finals for the end of the year, I'm going to put this question in multiple choice form.
Which is the more desirable situation for the enslaved man?
1) trapped on a small isolated farm with a farmer who has nothing to do but make sure he works you every minute to reclaim his investment. Constant attention and demands, few opportunities to find friends or have a family.
2. trapped on a large plantation, worked efficiently and relentlessly by a professional hard nosed overseer. More fellow workers, seperate, if primitive quarters, and the chance for some life outside the round of backbreaking labor.
I understand your distinction between two types of slave owners. However, for the slave himself, which was the more desirable situation? Because I'm writing my finals for the end of the year, I'm going to put this question in multiple choice form.
Which is the more desirable situation for the enslaved man?
1) trapped on a small isolated farm with a farmer who has nothing to do but make sure he works you every minute to reclaim his investment. Constant attention and demands, few opportunities to find friends or have a family.
2. trapped on a large plantation, worked efficiently and relentlessly by a professional hard nosed overseer. More fellow workers, seperate, if primitive quarters, and the chance for some life outside the round of backbreaking labor.
I understand your distinction between two types of slave owners. However, for the slave himself, which was the more desirable situation? Because I'm writing my finals for the end of the year, I'm going to put this question in multiple choice form.
Which is the more desirable situation for the enslaved man?
1) trapped on a small isolated farm with a farmer who has nothing to do but make sure he works you every minute to reclaim his investment. Constant attention and demands, few opportunities to find friends or have a family.
2. trapped on a large plantation, worked efficiently and relentlessly by a professional hard nosed overseer. More fellow workers, seperate, if primitive quarters, and the chance for some life outside the round of backbreaking labor.
3. Actually, they both are unthinkably awful.
You might add:
4. worked on a large plantation, for a relatively benevolent owner, saw my job as that as a "business man -seed to everything" or as a "foreman".
5. None of the above.
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The "point" of searching for dark looking faces in blurry photographs is to try to create a legion of black defenders of the Confederacy. The reason this is necessary has been explored on this and other, similar threads.
Yeah I know that conclusion has been the catalyst for the persistent, bulldogged, ceaseless efforts by those on the board who wish to push that viewpoint. Good gosh almighty they need to have us believe that. Why? Because it would tell us all, if we could be convinced, that if blacks fought for the Confederacy en masse, then how bad could slavery have been? They were so happy with their lot within the institution of slavery that they actually picked up rifles..in droves to fight for it. Sorry, I still don't buy into it. A few blacks, maybe. Hundreds or thousands?....never happened.
Okay.....go Battalion. Your turn.
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Louisiana Native Guard......Never Mustered into Confederate Service?
Strange how they went out of their way to tell us this so many times-
Quote:
Originally Posted by johan
"...they were never mustered into CS service or armed and never gave any kind of service to the CS..."
"...were never mustered or accepted into CS service..."
"...was never mustered, armed or recognized by the CS..."
"...never mustered in or utilized by the CS at all..."
Quote:
Originally Posted by trice
"...The Native Guards, of course, were not called to service under the Confederacy..."
"...they were not accepted into Confederate service..."
"...tendered its service to the CS... and it was refused and sent packing..."
"...They were never mustered into Confederate service. They existed only in the state militia..."
The problem with these statements is.....they may not be true...
"Some War Department officials were considerably surprised a few days ago while compiling the list of soldiers who served during the civil war, to discover that a regiment of negroes had been mustered into the Confederate service from New Orleans..."
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