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Old 06-16-2006, 10:32 PM
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Battalion, the guy may be black or not, but it's already been stipulated by just about everybody on the board that there were probably a few blacks who carried guns in one or more of the Confederate armies. If that's not your point then what is it you're trying to say? Geez louise man.

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Old 06-16-2006, 10:37 PM
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Battalion, the guy may be black or not, but it's already been stipulated by just about everybody on the board that there were probably a few blacks who carried guns in one or more of the Confederate armies. If that's not your point then what is it you're trying to say? Geez louise man.

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Interesting find though...ain't it?

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Old 06-16-2006, 10:41 PM
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Sam, we all look alike. I still think this group leans too heavily on the slavery issue as a factor in the participation of Southerners in the war. In another thread, there seems to be a concensus that between 4 and 12 per cent of Southerners (individuals or families) owned slaves. That leaves 96 to 88 per cent who had another problem. The US Army was shooting at Confederate soldiers, some of whom were our kin!
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:45 PM
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Sam, we all look alike. I still think this group leans too heavily on the slavery issue as a factor in the participation of Southerners in the war. In another thread, there seems to be a concensus that between 4 and 12 per cent of Southerners (individuals or families) owned slaves. That leaves 96 to 88 per cent who had another problem. The US Army was shooting at Confederate soldiers, some of whom were our kin!
No, the percentage of families was approximately 25% according to the director of the 1860 Census.

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Old 06-16-2006, 10:50 PM
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Interesting find though...ain't it?
yeah...I'm awestruck.


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Old 06-16-2006, 10:56 PM
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Tim if you stretch the number of folks owning slaves up to 25 percent, which I doubt, that still leaves 75 per cent in the other category. That's a majority by most standards?
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:57 PM
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No, the percentage of families was approximately 25% according to the director of the 1860 Census.

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Most families were large (10 or 12 kids) but had only a few slaves.

So there would be many who would realize little benefit from the fact that their father had slaves.
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Old 06-16-2006, 11:03 PM
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yeah...I'm awestruck.


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You did notice he was carrying a rifle?

Guess he had plans to shoot Yankees.
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Old 06-16-2006, 11:05 PM
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The significant slave holders were the planters, mostly rice planters and larger cotton planters in Mississippi, Alabama and South Carolina. Those were the boys with the large numbers and also the dollars to lobby in the Congress, both the real one and the Confederate one.
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Old 06-16-2006, 11:13 PM
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What's a "signifcant slave holder"?

How many slaves did one need to own to qualify?

I am serious.

Any other qualifications?
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